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Anonymous 11314Locked

>>5624 >>5627 >>5633 >>5638 >>5640 >>5646
Submitting reports for harassment is abusing the report system. Don't do it.

Anonymous 11318

>>11314

Uhhh…okay. I mean, I don't do it, but…I'm confused. Also those posts are very old. I have a feeling that an insult like that would not be warn-worthy anymore, at least on /anon/. We see much worse on a very regular basis.

In all the months I've been here, I think I've reported maybe five people, and one time the mod actually came into the thread and told me not to report someone.

Did you make this thread by accident?

Macil!/5s/Techmk 11320

>>11314
Er, are you trying to correct the staff that the report system shouldn't be used to report harassment? I'm confused. That's one of the main uses of the report system.

>>11318
Sorry if you got that response about a legitimate report. We do get a number of ridiculous reports that that type of response ought to be saved for.

Anonymous 11323

>>11320

Actually it wasn't a big deal, I basically reported one of those 50 million "4chan is down so I came here" threads on /anon/, because they usually turn into pointless shitposting, but the mod kinda said I should chill out and let OP figure things out or something.

At least that's what I remember.

Legendary!!VhZ4lFrash 11329

>>11323
heh, that was probably me. In regards to threads like that, I normally just autosage them as soon as I see them, I anon post the "welcome to MLPChan" guide image, and that seems to set them on their way. Sorry if it seemed like I was being harsh.

Anonymous 11330

>>11329

Nah it's no problem.

Hey, I actually have a question that is completely unrelated to this thread.

After I make this post (which is on my desktop), I'm gonna go make a post in this same thread on my laptop downstairs.

Can you tell me if both posts have the same IP address, or if they're different? If they were different, it might explain why I can't delete a post on this computer that I made on my laptop, even though they were both my posts (I don't delete posts often, but I ran into this problem yesterday). Also my thread updater is completely different on each computer, I can't get it to work in synch, which is annoying (I actually started a thread about it once).

I always thought I had the same static IP, because in the past when I've been banned from 4chan n-not that I deserved it, hehthe ban has affected both computers (I've never been banned or even warned from this site for the record, although there's probably a way you can see that). Anyways it would be something helpful to know.

Anonymous 11331

Okay, and this post is from my laptop.

Sersys!CyQeb5KTDM 11333

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Hi, I don't know what this thread is about and I don't really care. I just have a question relevant to harassment, I wanted to open a new thread but I guess we should keep harassment in one thread so here's what I want to know.

If someone repeatedly claims that he's talentless, dumb, worthless, or anything negative, then does it count as harassment if I tell him that he's talentless, dumb, worthless, etc.. according to what he claimed himself to be.
Because a while ago I got a warning for harassment because Z got upset when I implied that he is easy to forget, but he always complains that posters on this site forget him easily and usually says it's the fault of his personality for being forgettable. Though I'm not here to change the rules, just want to clarify this, I don't think this should count as harassment. Unless a user holds special privileges, one user should be allowed to say the same things as the other user. In this case if someone is allowed to say he's insignificant I should be allowed to say he's insignificant too. And on one side reason, last time I got warned for harassment because I refused to call a particular poster something he/she claimed to be.

Anonymous 11334

>>11333

…what board was that on? It couldn't possibly have been /anon/. And how long ago did it happen?

Sersys!CyQeb5KTDM 11335

>>11334
Just now
>>>/oat/1034500

Anonymous 11337

>>11335

Huh. Well I don't know anything about /oat/ other than that it's full of tripfags. Maybe that's why the mods take harassment more seriously there, because the tripcodes add identity to it and make things more personal.

Although I have to say, I don't think telling people to kill themselves would be a bannable offense on /anon/–unless a user had obtained personal info about another user and was actually threatening them or something. But I think on /anon/ you're allowed to be "mean" as long as it doesn't get extreme and turn into shitposting. That's just from my experience, but I guess it's a very different board culture.

Macil!/5s/Techmk 11340

>>11330
You have to enter the same password that the post was made with to delete a post. It's not by IP address.
Note that the password field isn't viewable in the QR if you're using it. If you want to set it to something custom for a post, disable it for a moment and use the password field in the old post form, then re-enable the QR. (I think I'll just switch the QR to use the password field at the bottom of the page sometime. You can always make a bunch of test posts at >>>/test/ to test it out.) To find the random default password a browser is using, open a javascript console and run alert(localStorage.password);.

>>11333
I can't offer you any strict definition of harassment.

>>11337
Personal attacks have much less leeway.

Anonymous 11342

>>11333
Speaking negatively of yourself is pretty different from other people speaking negatively of you.

>>11337
Being mean is a lot more threatening when people have a lasting identity.

Sersys!CyQeb5KTDM 11343

>>11340
I don't need any of that. Just tell me if I can call someone stupid if he calls himself stupid.

Sersys!CyQeb5KTDM 11344

>>11342
Well unless you explain it, no it is not.

Macil!/5s/Techmk 11346

>>11343
There isn't any clause to the harassment rule excepting phrases others have said. Bannable harassment could contain someone's own statements. Still against the rule.

Anonymous 11347

>>11340

>Personal attacks have much less leeway.


Right, when I say "mean posts on /anon/" I mean shit like:

>OP: Fluttershy is best pony!

>Reply 1: No she's not kill yourself you autistic shitbag

…that nobody in their right mind would take seriously. Arguments over certain things can get pretty heated, but I think at /anon/'s core we are all very reasonable, rational people. Porn especially seems to bring out the best of people.

I'd say there are three forms of "mean" posts on /anon/:

1. The one I mentioned above, which is basically shitposting.
2. Really angry arguments, usually caused by a reposting of a topic that has been discussed to death already and lures in the newfags (who is best pony, [insert episode here] is terrible, anything involving religion).
3. Serious personal attacks where users go out of their way to harm other users by obtaining personal info (raids and dox and all that stuff).

I think the third one is when it really starts to get ban-worthy. It's tricky, nobody wants a hugbox like Ponychan but we don't want something like /b/ either.

Sersys!CyQeb5KTDM 11348

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>>11346
Could you at least tell me in a few lines what was I doing here >>>/oat/1034500 to get a warning for harassment?

Anonymous 11349

>>11347
Nobody is talking about /anon/.
>nobody wants a hugbox like Ponychan
Outside of /anon/, this website is Ponychan.
Many mods are biased and immature and hugboxing is at an extreme.
>>>/oat/1028012

Sersys!CyQeb5KTDM 11351

>>11349
Ugh, not really, ponychan is 10 times worse but you have a point.

Macil!/5s/Techmk 11352

>>11348
Everything involving Z.

Sersys!CyQeb5KTDM 11353

>>11352
You are not helping. Could you describe it please?

Sersys!CyQeb5KTDM 11354

>>11352
So far what I can guess is that Z got pissed, reported me, you didn't care about what was going on, you just issued a warning to get the job done. Is that it?

Macil!/5s/Techmk 11355

>>11354
I didn't even see any reports about that thread. (Another mod may have dismissed them after seeing I was dealing with the thread if there were any.)

>>11353
If that's not helping, then I'm not sure I can help you. Regardless, the rules still apply.

Sersys!CyQeb5KTDM 11357

>>11355
If I want to reply to Z again, how do I avoid getting warned or banned for harassment?

Anonymous 11358

>>11352
The thing is, mods are incredibly biased when it comes to this rule.
They will act on people harassing posters that they like.
They will not act on posters that they do not like.
When posters that they do not like report harassing comments, they ban that poster and tell them not to abuse the report system.

Macil!/5s/Techmk 11359

>>11357
Rough test: When you think up a post to him, do you think he'll respond negatively or positively to its content? If you think it will be negatively and you still make the post, then that might just be harassment. Not a definite rule, but I'm confident you can figure out the intricacies of it if you try.

>>11358
I actually happen to not be acquainted with the people in question, but I would expect myself to react the same way regardless.

Sersys!CyQeb5KTDM 11360

>>11358
I don't think so. They just don't know how far can they let people go being rude to each other. They rather accuse you of harassment and hope you don't want them to explain why or ditch you by saying "exactly what you did" without pointing out anything specific.
To be honest it's very hard to do anything that is of harassment without breaking the other rules. Spamming is a harassment, posting disturbing pictures is a harassment, flaming or writing disturbing text is a harassment but they are all already against some other rule. I'd define it as periodical or systematic deliberate thread topic derail to a certain topic regarding the victim poster.

But that's just like my opinion man.

Anonymous 11361

>>11360
Libelous posts are harassment.
And I was banned for reporting them.

Sersys!CyQeb5KTDM 11362

>>11359
So every time I reply to him I have to fear, he will decide to pretend to be offended just to screw with me if he doesn't like my argument so he could get rid of me, in case I prove him wrong?

Sersys!CyQeb5KTDM 11363

>>11361
How do you post anything libellous on an anonymous / pseudo-anonymous image board? It's not like anyone can prove any real life fact.

Macil!/5s/Techmk 11364

>>11361
Your previous ban was 1 hour long and for posts of yours. No one gets banned for reporting posts unless they're spamming the tool or actually harassing staff with it.

>>11362
Somehow I think mods might not react extremely in that situation, but if you were actually worried that he really doesn't want to talk to you to that point, then maybe you just shouldn't talk to him.

Anonymous 11365

>>11364
You are wrong on both accounts.

Sersys!CyQeb5KTDM 11366

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>>11364
-I mentioned his name.
-He got sightly offended. For what reason?
-I accused him of stuff that I made up.
-He gets really pissed off. For me accusing him of random idiotic stuff?
-I tell him he deserves to feel bad if he gets pissed off over practically nothing.
-I get warned for harassment for… mentioning his name? Or telling him that he is stupid if he gets pissed off by having his name mentioned or random accusations? Or because I found it hilarious that he got pissed off for no reason?
-And now you can't explain why you gave me a warning
So is this an extreme reaction?
But ok fine.

Why doesn't he just ignore me? Or am I the underdog for my reputation when it comes to whose responsibility it is to prevent drama?

Anonymous 11367

>>11366
>Or am I the underdog for my reputation Yes. The mods are very biased. In their words, "your kind isn't welcome here."

Macil!/5s/Techmk 11368

>>11365
I'll take your word for it.

>>11366
>-I mentioned his name.
>-He got sightly offended. For what reason?
>-I accused him of stuff that I made up.
>-He gets really pissed off. For me accusing him of random idiotic stuff?
The combination of these got me to clarify in the thread that harassment is in fact bannable. Do also note that you weren't banned.

Sersys!CyQeb5KTDM 11369

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>>11368
I wasn't banned and I don't want to get banned over whining poster who pretends to be offended by anything I say. What do I do? Not talk to him? Why don't he just ignore me? Why is it me who has to avoid him? Because I laught at him? I found enjoyment in his self inducted mental pain so I'm the bad guy? It wasn't me who got offended and made a scene.

Anonymous 11370

>>11369
What part of
-The mods are biased
-Posting on this site is a privilege that can be revoked at anytime
-The mods will ban you if they dislike you, rules be damned
Do you not understand?

Sersys!CyQeb5KTDM 11371

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>>11370
There is a god damned logical explanation for this I just don't know what shady secret does this explanation guard that he won't tell me.

Anonymous 11372

>>11371
It is not Macil's issue.
Macil hardly moderates /oat/ as far as I am aware.
It is the fact that many mods on this site are raging faggots, rules mean nothing if they want them to.
Which they do. Often.
Also, rules will be used against you if it works in their favor.
If you have a problem with that, either start a campaign to remove the offending mods, or leave this website.
I don't know what else I can offer you in terms of advice.
Is that clear enough for you?

Macil!/5s/Techmk 11373

>>11371
I'm not sure how plainer I can be. Your posts were close to harassment, and I clarified part of the rules. I can't believe someone can fail to understand this except deliberately.

This isn't your thread, but OP barely made sense as it is, so I'm closing it.


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