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Season 4 Episode 16 Streaming/Discussion Thread The Person Who Posts As Fluttershy (Element of Self-descriptive Usernames) 470533

This week's episode is titled Somepony to Watch Over Me. The synopsis is:
Apple Bloom gets the chance to stay home alone for the day, but a series of unfortunate accidents causes Applejack to regret her decision. Apple Bloom must find a way to prove to her sister that she doesn’t need her to constantly watch over her.

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The episode will air Saturday at 10:30AM Eastern 7:30AM Pacific

Stream and chat is available at http://www.bronystate.net/theater/applejack/

YouTube links will be added when available.
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Rambling!Rose//pzOM 470564

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>a series of unfortunate accidents
Well, my bets are on the mayor and the local princess at the very least.

Not super excited for this because CMC but maybe it will be interesting, at least. I just hope these unfortunate accidents aren't too convoluted and whatnot.

Anonymous 470565

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At your service!

Scootapuff!saU4Tsd4dU 470616

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This is sounding a lot like a Merriwether episode. Can feel it in my bones.

Anonymous 470647

As much I fucking hated that episode, it still had one funny scene.

Heavy Mole 470648


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This weeks episode will be written by new MLP writer Scott Sonneborn.


Here's his IMDb if you want to look into it: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1032829/?ref_=fn_al_nm_1

Some of his highlights include Generator Rex, Storm Hawks, Angela Anaconda, and Beavis and Butt-Head.

Also, next weeks episode will be Polsky's.

Rambling!Rose//pzOM 470695

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>Generator Rex
>"Five years prior to the series, a massive explosion released high concentrations of nanites into the atmosphere, infecting almost every living thing on Earth."

IT'S HAPPENING! The signs were true! Get ready for NANOMACHINES #LunaBehindAll

Erm, I mean… I suppose it will be interesting to see what his debut will be like. Some of his previous works make me wonder but they don't always tell everything, heck, might be they don't even mean anything. Here's hoping he nails it. Still, CMC episode so I'm not super excited. Thanks, Shoxy.

Silver Strength!TwiDasH7n2 470696

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Think big!
Play small.


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The Person Who Posts As Fluttershy (Element of Self-descriptive Usernames) 470707

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Rambling!Rose//pzOM 471091

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Well, I got what I expected, I suppose. Though it wasn't as much a CMC episode than it was an Applejack one.

Applejack sure loves her family but this seemed a tad ridiculous to me. How does she let her sister do all those crazy Crusader things they do? Hold a spoon in her mouth when running to carry an egg (You could get hurt if you trip over!)? Honestly, ridiculous. There was a concern we would have Merriwether grade accidents all over but all we got was a Merribad AJ which isn't necessarily any better.

Remember the train episode and how Pinkie was an idiot there? That's AJ in this episode. Sure, there were some nice elements in this episode here and there, but the overall pointlessness of the story and AJ being what she was ruined the episode for me, since that kinda was being the main focus.

Oh, and AJ listing all that nonsense about fire-proof boots and lion tamer's chairs and whatnot? Turns out she wasn't just being overprotective and silly there but actually serious. They did such a thing before in Family Appreciation Day and I found it worked there, it's one of my favourite episodes mostly for that reason. But there Granny was right all along and knew what she was doing, even if it seemed nonsensical without knowing why. Here AJ was wrong all the time, doing nonsensical stuff for no reason but then turned out to be right about what seemed to be some of the most outrageously nonsensical things. That doesn't sit well with me and it muddles the story being told here in my mind, or if not that, it weakens it. It's like they have two stories there, one where AJ is a wreck and Apple Bloom can take care of herself, and one where AJ is a responsible adult who Bloom needs to get along. And that responsible, no-nonsense AJ doesn't work with what we saw earlier in the episode. Of note is that this no-nonsense AJ has been the prevalent one in the show. This contradiction with the episode itself is one of the main reasons it didn't work that well for me.

The fire swamp was kinda cool, chimera as well, but I don't think its design was that great. I was expecting the chimera to actually be the one the pies were for and AJ showing up to "save" Apple Bloom from no danger at all. Instead it was a pony-eating monster and ruined the possibility of staying consistent throughout the episode. And of course then there were the ponies they were bringing the pies to… I don't know accents that well or anything, so I can't say for sure if the portrayal of those ponies was somewhat disparaging. Seems like it could be taken like that, though.

The song Apple Bloom was starting to sing didn't sound super good so I'm glad Scoots cut that short. No time for a song, indeed. I'm surprised their plan actually worked, though. Their manes are all different colours, and while the ribbon is huge some of the mane probably does show through. When I was a kid I thought if I stood or sat completely still people would think I was a statue. This plan is on that level. For the record, I never could fool anyone for some strange reason

AB growing frustrated with her sister was understandable and you could see her growing more and more frustrated as we went along, which was nice, at least. I would have liked if she'd properly blown up at AJ, saying stuff about their mom or whatnot. But no, opportunity wasted.

Overall, this is one of those episodes I might rewatch to fact-check something but wouldn't otherwise without it being part of a marathon-type thing. Bad characterization, uninteresting characters and poorly realized story idea all made this episode just meh. I feel sorry for that new writer, but their debut did let me down.

Anonymous 471092

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Granny behind a closed door sounds like Donald Duck.

Also, no ROUS.


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The accents were from Louisiana, which is a very swampy southern state. Guess they were swamp ponies.

I don't have a lot to say about the episode. It was pretty average. Didn't anger me or impress me. You've covered a lot of it. I think I liked the swamp and chimera a lot more than you. That shit was menacing.

One thing that made me wonder is how are the ponies communicating between households? It happens twice this episode. Applebloom summons the CMC and Applejack summons Rarity, but neither time could the pony get away from the farm. So, any interesting ideas on what serves as the pony equivalent of a telephone?

I also would have liked to see Rarity with Sweetie and Scoot momentarily, just because I like to see Rarity.

Rambling!Rose//pzOM 471102

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Yeah, that is actually a fairly good point. Twilight can't contact Celestia without the use of Spike's breath and such, at least as far as we know, so if she doesn't have a way to remotely contact other ponies I doubt AJ and Rares have any, either. I wouldn't necessarily call it a plothole but it kinda smells like one.

You did ask for ideas, though… Winona? Maybe they had her run off with a message or some such. Or birds. As for the CMC, they clearly must have a CMC signal they flash into the sky when they need to meet with each other. Not exactly subtle, but it works. They've worked out a deal with Dash that she keeps them supplied with clouds to display the signal on. Or smoke signals, though I don't think that's highly likely. Not after that time Rarity caught Sweetie Belle making a fire in the boutique while staying over.

But yeah, the swamp was cool, for sure, I just didn't find it that impressive. But I do have different preferences, I admit. And yes, Rarity showing up and the fillies telling her Applejack had gone nuts would have been fun~

Anonymous 471125

Exaggerated, cheesy and retarded as always. The writers are never in charge of their own episodes, it's Jayson Thiessen.

Heavy Mole 471173

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"Four Red Bulls? That seems like an awful lot just to prepare for a pie delivery."


>tfw applejack will never be the overprotective and loving mother of your foals

Anonymous 471188

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Let me guess, you were the kid who told constant knock-knock jokes all the time.

LyraTheFlirt!!Ah2q8cdspr 471771

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I give this episode a 7/10.

I figure a lot of people were going to dislike it for how they portrayed applejack but too me, it kind of makes sense. It's practically cannon that Applejack's parents are dead. So it would make sense that Applejack is a bit over protective of her sister. We have seen this before in bridle gossip. And we have seen other characters like Pinkie Pie snap into completely different characters.

Let's assume that AJ snapped while delivering pies. Something in her head clicked and made her want to be over protective to her sister. Except too me in my headcannon it was a bit more.

My theory is that more than just being protective, AJ was mostly just trying to show Applebloom how much she loved her. And the best way AJ could think of to show that, is to be super ultra overprotective. The way applejack always had that grin, that smile on while protecting bloom, made me think it was more about showing her love (in an insane way). This would make sense given that AJ has taken the mother role for AB. I guess the thought of leaving AB alone is just what flipped a switch in her mind. Pretty much every pony has had some sort of breakdown besides applejack and this makes the most sense. She's probably overprotective of her apple orchid too. Oh wait she is, she was totally okay with letting bats possibly become the next para sprites for the sake of a few trees. stupid bitch.

Also I LOVED the facial expressions in this episode. Sweetie had some crazy ass fear face going on that literally made me laugh out loud. I almost never laugh out loud to mlp.

Anyways, it was a good episode. I liked it and so should you.

Heavy Mole 471815

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I did think Applejack was pretty insane in this episode, but it didn't make me angry. It reminded me of how Rainbow Dash was flanderized in season two, particularly in episodes like "Read It and Weep" and "May the Best Pet Win". Maybe it's a "new writer" thing.

I didn't like the episode, though. The premise was kind of dull, and the resolution and moral delivery were pretty wonky. I think it would have been much more interesting if Applejack had stayed on her trip, and Applebloom had gotten into her own adventure that really challenged her new sense of independence. Maybe also a good time to plant the seeds for a cutie mark episode.

LyraTheFlirt!!Ah2q8cdspr 472752

You think that RD was flanderized in those two episodes? Huh, I actually liked the way they acted in those episodes. The way I see it is they were adding more depth and character to her, character development if you will. I guess people like certain aspects of the ponies more then others. I guess that's bound to happen when your characters personalities are as consistent as a half cooked spaghetti.

I do however agree with your thoughts on the episode. The moral was very much indeed "wonky". I feel like they could have written it better. I usually don't care about the morale though as long as it makes sense.

Heavy Mole 472757

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Well, what I loved about this show in the beginning was its ability to weave emotionally intelligent themes into a tight and entertaining narrative. Nowadays, it seems more like they are making something entertaining (usually) and tacking on a "moral" at the end, like the carrot nose on a snowman. Good, but not really the stuff that sticks with you.

Anonymous 472758

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The final outcome of Read it and Weep helped expand Dash by giving her another passion and a favorite book series. But the process was dumb.

It's been noted that the entire conflict resolved in the first few minutes. Dash thinks reading fiction is a nerdy niche interest. Her friends explain that it isn't. Done.

…ohwait Dash's role has been replaced by a wannabe coolkid loljock stereotype, so she still thinks "hurrdurr egghead reading uncool." Hence the complaints of flanderization. It only works if you treat Dash as if she's Scootaloo.

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