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Season 4 Episode 15 Streaming/Discussion Thread The Person Who Posts As Fluttershy (Element of Self-descriptive Usernames) 469728

This week's episode is titled It Ain't Easy Being Breezies and is written by Natasha Levinger The synopsis is:
Fluttershy takes action to rescue a group of magical Breezies, who’re in need of some assistance while migrating home, but she begins to wonder how long she can help them when she finds herself answering to the tiny creatures’ every whim.Twilight is looking forward to some quality bonding time with Princess Cadance. But when a sick friend shows up needing Twilight's attention, it looks like her plans for a peaceful visit with her sister-in-law will have to be put on hold.

Airing, streaming information and YouTube links
The episode will air Saturday at 10:30AM Eastern 7:30AM Pacific

Stream and chat is available at http://www.bronystate.net/theater/applejack/
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Heavy Mole 469729

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The whole Fluttershy B-plot doesn't interest me too much, but I'm intrigued by this "Twilight's day being interrupted by a friend" incident…

Anonymous 469804

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Later that day…

BMO 469805

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Okay, the breezies are looking pretty cute.
Prepare for Breezie OCs

Rambling!Rose//pzOM 469828

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>>469805
>cute
I find them mostly creepy…

BMO 469829

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>>469828
I find weird things cute.
I find many things cute.

Heavy Mole 469836

Anonymous 469863

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>>469828
Freaky slender stretch-legs.

>>469829
Breezies should be mothpones.

BMO 469870

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>>469863
I agree.

Anonymous 469874

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Lavender!!llnUq8y2Ml 469894

>died from adorable

Anonymous 470027

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>finally left that shithole /mlp/ to find a new site
>new episode thread
>last post was 20 minutes ago
Jesus, is it always this slow?

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>>470027
sadly… yes
This post was edited by its author on .

Anonymous 470030

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>>470027
Wait, nevermind, it was yesterday.
Shit, this board is ded.

The Person Who Posts As Fluttershy (Element of Self-descriptive Usernames) 470031

spike used razor leaf
its super effective

470033

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>>470030
Lol, yep. This site has no ponies. Go talk about other things on anon and oat.

BMO 470036

The way they talk…
Are the Breezies Smurfs?

Heavy Mole 470038

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Wow

The Person Who Posts As Fluttershy (Element of Self-descriptive Usernames) 470090

>>470033
they are swedes

BMO 470115

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"If there was one thing I got out of this episode… Dash wants to be a Griffon." -John Joseco

470116

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>>470038
Disappointed? We had a good run for awhile.

BMO 470120

>>470116
If I post in anything, it's destined to die off.

Heavy Mole 470139

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>>470116
Among the classic seasons of The Simpsons (1 - 9), there is often a division made between the first and second half, between episode content which focuses on empathetic characterization and social dilemmas (Homer becoming a leader in a strike that occurs at his workplace) and that which centers around outlandish scenarios and zany antics (Homer moving to a Stepford-esque community where he works for a super villain). I grew up with the "zany" Simpsons, and could never understand the grousing by the fans of the original style; I'm starting to see where they're coming from.

Rambling!Rose//pzOM 470175

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>>470027
>>470030
Indeed it is. We could use new blood to spice things up and get people talking. Sure, I guess we could be more active in general and stuff, but at least I'm real bad at coming up with threads. And I ramble. Anywho, if you have something you want to talk about I'd be happy to do so.

>>470139
I have to say, seeing you say something like that before I'd seen the episode seemed a good bit worrying. Well, assuming I read you right, anyways. I'd also be interested in hearing what your thoughts on the episode were.



And that episode sure was, umm, something. I have no idea if there even is a theme to the key episodes anymore with this, dammit. Now Fluttershy was too kind and not being kind was the answer. Hell, even Pinkie had to get her priorities straight and focus on laughter and happiness, being who she usually is. Here Fluttershy had to do something that wasn't particularly normal to her and that somehow helped her teach kindness to that male(?) breezy. What. And it seems clear I was totally off the mark with the episodes being named after the ponies themselves. It would have been a nice thing to tie them all together, but what do I know.

And they are really pushing that Time Turner and Rose thing. Well, I guess they are going for the Doctor rather than Time Turner in this case. If they aren't taking that somewhere I'm really going to be confused, because it isn't a one-off thing in the background anymore, now they were front and center in this one. I can't really complain about having Rose in the episodes but I would like Rose the flower pony more…

I'll get back to the episode a bit later.

Rambling!Rose//pzOM 470176

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Rambling episode recap time
Hey, remember the cold opening from Sonic Rainboom where Fluttershy's cheering wasn't loud enough? Natasha Levinger clearly did. While this reversal is kind of clever I found it dragged on a bit too long and wasn't that funny to begin with. It's nice seeing references to older episodes, though, even if they aren't perfect. A for effort. The scene itself, well… It looks like Pinkie is still being loud and shouting as usual. Yeah, it makes sense in the context of the scene, but as it seems to be a part of a trend I don't like it very much. She is an excitable pony, but to me it seems she's just shouting and screaming all the time. Also, that yay at the end seemed rather forced to me.

It turns out this episode wasn't a companion piece to Three's a Crowd like Just for Sidekicks was to Games Ponies Play. On one hand I'm glad it wasn't, on the other it could have been a true Fluttershy focus episode. It would have been interesting to see how the writers could write her completely on her own and in her element. Sadly, it wasn't to be. Her mysterious trip is referenced in this episode, so at least there is that.

Breezies going through Ponyville seems to be a big deal and a cause for celebration, though it being the town Pinkie Pie resides in that probably shouldn't have come as a surprise to me. And apparently there's a mariachi band or something there, as well. The big question is why Shiny wasn't there playing with his band. I guess he has his duties, marital and otherwise. Not everyone is celebrating, though; Blank flank Flitter and Thunderlane look-alike are hard at work, trying to make a breeze that's just perfect. Looks like Flitter actually does have a cutie mark there, but it's really hard to see. More on that later Mr. Cake is kind enough to ask Fluttershy explain why they need to do so in the first place, and apparently the magic of these breezies only activates thanks to a breeze. Who'd have thunk? I suppose this is another example of ponies being the caretakers of the world at large, or it could be a remnant from a time when ponies didn't control the weather. Even if that was the case, now they have a race that's completely dependant on them. Interesting.

I do wonder what they use that pollen for, though. That portal thing sounds oddly specific as well. Is it a portal to another world, or to another part of Equestria? I remember hearing about some artifact that connected to a strange world at specific times but I can't quite place it… must have been a dream. Fluttershy mentions her adventure in Western Equestria as the reason she knows so much about the breezies. As I mentioned, this adventure is something I would have liked to see. Aaaand then Rarity is too fabulous to handle. As she should be, of course. Sadly, the breezies can't handle such fabulousity and she has to attend naked.

Flitter manages to find a more visible cutie mark just in time for the breezies to arrive and everypony is amazed at how cute those creepy little buggers are. For some reason Spike isn't happy looking at Sparkler's purple behind and wants to get a better view of the breezies. Pinkie is having trouble not exploding so hopping onto her back isn't a good solution but luckily there is a tree Spike can climb. The tree can't handle his excitement and a leaf falls off, getting caught in the breeze and cutting a group of them off. Flitter is so shocked she switches back to the first cutie mark but soon changes back to Cloud Kicker's one. And back to the first one. I don't think cutie marks work that way…

The little buggers keep flying around out of control until Fluttershy flies in and catches them all and brings them down safely, again demonstrating, and explaining, her ability to understand all kinds of creatures. We establish the only breezy who can speak Equestria doesn't much appreciate the rest, and Pinkie keeps screaming and shouting. Spike is super sorry and all teary-eyed, but those tears dry up real quick when Fluttershy says it's okay. Makes me wonder how sorry he really was. The breezies clearly don't much appreciate Spike making Fluttershy bumping into them, though.

Rainbow offers to start the breeze up again so the critters can keep moving on, but the breezies aren't having none of that and rush to hug Flutters who tells Dash they need a bit more time to get ready. So Fluttershy takes them all home and makes them feel comfortable, apparently having time to knit some sweaters for them in the hour she's had them. That girl sure works fast! AJ and Twi come to check in on the creatures to see if they are ready to go but it is starting to look like Fluttershy wants to keep them all to herself. Parasprites, anyone? It does look like the breezies don't want to leave, either, so she tells AJ and Twi they need a bit more time. Seabreeze, however, is having none of that and tells Fluttershy and/or the other breezies off. When they are left alone again he tells Flutters and the breezies that they need to go now or they'll never get home. However, he is being rather rude and aggressive about it and blames them for being so incompetent. But Flutters doesn't give in and decides it's snack time.

Rambling!Rose//pzOM 470177

>>470176
After they're done snacking it seems Fluttershy finally thinks they are ready to go, and says so. Seabreeze, again, keeps being a jerk and calls the others losers and such, but despite that Flutters urges them to go. Again, though, the rest of the breezies have other ideas and fake a cold. Badly, I might add, but for some ungodly reason she takes that at face value. Clearly they can't leave when they are sick, now, can they?

Dash, Thunderlane look-alike and Flitter (with that rain cutie mark) come check on the breezies again but no, they need a bit more time. Flitter, being the sensible mare she is, points out the problem here, but Dash trusts Flutters to know what she's doing, so they leave her to nurse the breezies back to health. Nope, apparently they are having a party to cure their colds. Makes sense to me! Party pooper Seabreeze questions this plan and Fluttershy again agrees that they should leave, but, surprise surprise, the rest again make up some excuse to not leave and for some reason Fluttershy keeps worrying about having been the best host ever and takes their excuses at face value. While this lunacy is going on Seabreeze has had enough and flies off.

Being the little bugger he is, he can't control his movements in the breeze outside and flies to a forest, past Rose and Time Turner / Doctor Whooves, almost gets crushed by acorns and gets stuck in a beehive. Bees don't like intruders, but luckily Fluttershy is there to tell them it was an accident, right? Nope, bees are having none of that. Fluttershy tries to distract them? Nope, need to murder invader. So Fluttershy tells the bees to back off or face her wrath, which works. Flutters and Seabreeze have a heart-to-heart, discussing the situation and he explains what he was trying to do, and Flutters realizes she has been too kind and might have just made things worse.

After Seabreeze complains how no breezy ever listens to him Fluttershy points out he has been kind of rough on the others and they haven't been listening because of that. Seabreeze points out the clear hypocrisy in how she handled the bees earlier. And Fluttershy sees the rainbow, realizing the same. They get back to her home, she tells the breezies they need to go and shows them the door. And bursts into tears after they've gone.

Outside, Rainbow Dash, Thunderlane look-alike and Flitter (still with the rain cutie mark) are trying to create the breeze again, this time only flapping the very tips of their wings. It's too strong, so RD orders the other two to back off a bit. They comply, with Flitter switching back to Cloudy's cutie mark but now the breeze is too weak. Flitter is not sure what to do, and switches back to the rain cutie mark. Luckily Twilight has been studying and has learned a new worldbreakingly overpowered spell that could help them. And so she turns the Mane 6 into breezies. The horror, the horror!

With these six new breezies not-Thunderlane and Flitter can create the perfect breeze which carries the group through a lot of different places. On the way some are starting to fall behind, but having learned from Fluttershy's kind ways Seabreeze gives them a peptalk, apologizes for being a meanie and helps them catch up. Finally they reach the portal to their homeland and the breezies meet up with their loved ones. Fluttershy says her farewells and gets a flower from Seabreeze to remember them by.

Returning to the normal world, Twi turns them back to ponies as Fluttershy gives the lesson for the episode. Being cruel is kind! Right? Realizing the power Twilight now holds, Dash reveals she has always wondered what being a griffin is like. Twilight, being the meanie pants she is, doesn't agree to turn her into one. Or a dragon, either. As they run into the sunset, Fluttershy looks up to the flower she received (which got bigger by Twi's spell, as well) and it gives off a flash of rainbow…

Rambling!Rose//pzOM 470178

>>470177
And that's the recap, yay! Now that that's over with there's one thing I must address…

WHAT WAS YOUR FUCKING PLAN?! Seabreeze was mean to you so you went "Fuck you, we are staying here, I hated my family anyways!". I mean, seriously. There was this two-day window they had to hit or they would have had to wait who knows how long, assuming they even survived that long. So why were they all except Seabreeze faking a cold and making Fluttershy keep them there? Didn't they want to go home or were they just literally giving Seabreeze the finger? After those two days what were they going to do? Seriously, they seem like children who have no idea what they are doing at all, but clearly they were grown-ups and had their loved ones on the other side. Speaking of which, they sure were happy to see them back home. Must have been an awkward discussion back home. "So, what kept you so long? I missed you, honey!" "Oh, yes, eh heh, you see…" Bloody brilliant, that. Seabreeze was right all along. Morons.

As for Fluttershy, I know she doesn't want to hurt anyone, but being this much of a pushover and not seeing through all those excuses reminded me too much of Putting Your Hoof Down. She did sound a bit incredulous at their claim to all be sick, but went with it anyways. I would have thought she'd have had such problems earlier at some point. If she was like this all the time I guess it's no wonder Angel was the spoiled brat he was in PYHD. Honestly, though. She took care of the CMC in season one, and faced something similar to this situation way back then. But of course, they weren't tiny, cute magical creatures.

I also find it odd that at first it seemed she wanted to keep the breezies there just because they were adorable, just like she did with the parasprite in Swarm of the Century but soon she was just being too kind and didn't want to make them feel bad for some reason. Yes, I agree those could both have happened in this order, but it sure seemed odd to me. It would have given off a stronger message had they stuck to one or the other.

If you read the recap, you probably noticed I kept mentioning Flitter's cutie mark. They must have had two different people animating her in this episode or something, I can't come up with another explanation she'd be switching so often. What makes me doubt this, though, is that it was changed back and forth just when she moved from screen to screen. And neither of those cutie marks was even her own! I don't even know whose that rain one was. I know they don't really pay attention to background characters, but she was in an assisting role in this episode, her role was about as big as Rainbow's and she had a lot of screentime. Clearly not worth the attention. And speaking of background ponies, the Doctor and Rose sure were prominent in this episode. If something doesn't come out of this I'm going to be surprised.

Oh, and Twilight got a new spell that I'm sure we won't see again in the future, how wonderful. Is she able to turn a pony into anything she has available now? This, as a few of her other spells, are just so powerful and versatile… And horrible, in a way, too. How long would they have stayed as breezies? Can she turn unwilling targets into whatever she pleases and they are stuck until somepony turns them back? I really wish her recklessness with magic got her burned good at some point. Lesson Zero was a disappointment in that way, and after that her abusable spell repertoire has just grown and grown. Bats! could have had that happen, but she blamed every one of them, not just herself, and the situation ended up being fixed. She needs to face the consequences of being so careless at some point, she really does, or there will be a new Lesson Zero situation at some point, and Celestia might not be there to fix everything that time. Here's hoping… for her getting corrupted by some magic and becoming a villain, because come on, she'd make an awesome one.

On a completely different note I do have to wonder what Fluttershy would have done to the bees. I'd like to imagine she could have told them to behave or she'd tell Harry where their hive is and that it's okay to do whatever he wants to with it. Oh well. And for our weekly "How terrible was Pinkie this week?" watch… Not that terrible. Not Filli Vanilli levels, for sure, just overly excitable and loud, and she wasn't the focus of the episode almost at all so that is fairly okay. I wouldn't say she was good, either, but better than she has been in recent memory, anyways.

Overall, I think this episode was just… meh. It was fairly boring to watch Fluttershy pamper the buggers and the episode really was just going on and on. I do like a slow place but this was fairly ridiculous. Had the interactions been interesting I would have been just fine but as I wasn't entertained… yeah.

And of course, as I mentioned in my earlier post, this really makes me wonder about the key episodes and what the pattern is. Pinkie Pride didn't fit the pattern I had created but compared to this it was almost a perfect fit. In all the previous ones the pony in question had been acting against their element to some extent and when they realized this they saw the rainbows and made things right. Rarity ran off to find her friends, Dash got up and admitted what she was doing and told Spitfire what's what, and Pinkie gave up on the goof off because Dash wasn't having a good time and she hadn't had her priorities straight. Here Fluttershy was being kind, as she usually is, but to the extent of being almost a doormat. To me that isn't the opposite of kindness in any way, and when she saw the rainbows she realized her kindness and willingness to please had caused issues so she had to be firm and tell the breezies to get out. Like they say in a song, sometimes you need to be cruel to be kind. However, this doesn't fit the established pattern, and so I have to figure out a new one, if there even is one. Yes, Fluttershy ended up teaching Seabreeze about kindness and that arguably earned her her key, but her moment of revelation and what led to it don't match up. But yeah, if the data doesn't match the theory then it's probably time to rework the theory rather than disregard data…

But yeah, meh episode, not likely I'll be rewatching it too many times, though at least it isn't a CMC episode so it's at least a bit more likely I might.

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>>470175
>>470176
>>470177
>>470178
Too much talking. Little white ponies can't handle..

I'd like to address one of your early point about the theme of the key episodes though. There is indeed one. They're about learning moderation of one's element. Rarity learned that someponies will take advantage of her generosity if she just gives it around to every pony, and that she needs to judge who she should be generous to. Rainbow learned you can't be loyal to everyone all the time, because sometimes they conflict and you need to make a choice. Pinkie learned that sometimes being batshit insane can ruin another's enjoyment. Fluttershy learned that sometimes you need to not be kind to get people (or swede fairies) to listen to you.

So by these trends, we can assume Applejack will have an episode focusing her to not be honest with someone. She'll probably learn her honesty can hurt other ponies. Rarity and Rainbow are both excellent candidates for this. AJ could point out one of their flaws and hurt their tender little feelings. Twilight has two directions she could take. The easy way out would be to teach her magic isn't always the answer, but this one is cheap and Winter Wrap Up. I hope they go for the much cooler avenue; Friendship isn't always the answer. Discord would be the perfect target for this, as he's already been taking advantage of his friendship with her. Finale, he makes a bunch of trouble, Twilight tells him they're not friends anymore, Discord mocks her for giving up on Friendship, key, rainbow power, stoned Discord.

Rambling!Rose//pzOM 470193

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>>470179
Sorry, I got a bit carried away. I'm also aware it's not exactly the easiest or most efficient format, this rambling. I use it as a way to figure out my way through the episode myself, kind of talking to myself. Just makes it way easier on me than editing and making bulletpoints here and there. I'm lazy that way.

>theme in key episodes

That is interesting. I'm not a fan of a negative lesson such as this, and the moments they get their rainbow eyes don't go together with this theory that well. Well, besides Fluttershy's, I guess. What's your opinion on them teaching other ponies about generosity, loyalty or kindness, though? Do they fit somewhere in this idea?

The AJ idea could be a nice episode to see, though, I just can't see it as a key episode at least yet. But I am biased towards my headcanon/theory of them, so there's that. Twi's, yeah, I'd really rather they go the friendship route. Friendship is magic and all that, them just going the magic is magic route would feel really cheap, as you said. This thing with Discord could work rather nicely, I admit. As above, I'm just not sure I like the idea of negative lessons such as this, even if it is an important lesson to learn. I prefer to think that despite how the show goes it has a positive note to it in the end.

This was something I hadn't thought about but it is interesting, even if I don't agree with it right away. Thanks. A fic with this premise would be real interesting, though, and could take it way further than the show can.

Heavy Mole 470194

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>>470175
Above all, it was very convoluted. I had that same feeling when I first saw KCaFO where I knew what was happening, but I couldn't tell where it was going. The primary conflict wasn't even very clear until close to the end of the episode, and then they all turned into fairies.

>>470179
My Little Pony: Friendship in Moderation!

Rambling!Rose//pzOM 470205

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>>470194
Ah, yes. I think that's a fairly accurate retelling of the episode and convoluted a good enough word to describe it. WHAT WAS YOUR FUCKING PLAN?! sorry, when I watched the episode I wanted to yell that so much, and it is very likely going to be the one thing I remember of this episode It's funny how you mentioned the conflict only really coming up at the very end of the episode in Filli Vanilli, and I didn't find that a bad thing at all, whereas here I would have to agree in that it wasn't so good for me in this case where we didn't have happy Fluttershy jamming the rest of the time.

Heavy Mole 470219

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>>470205
This is a different kind of ending problem. Endings are hard to do. Most competent craftspeople can do beginnings.

To help me explain my perception of these different ending problems, let us turn to our friend, the Orgasm:

Simple Ways was like cumming (two m's?) too early;

Filli Vanilli was like working up and pulling out, before a proper release ("blue balled");

This episode was like not being able to get it up because your partner was too awkward in her (his) erotic method.

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>>470219
>Filli Vanilli was like working up and pulling out, before a proper release
I released…

470394

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Following a re-watch, a question.
Why does Fluttershy own thimbles?

Anonymous 470404

>>470394
For storing bee costumes inside them?

The Person Who Posts As Fluttershy (Element of Self-descriptive Usernames) 470456

>>470394
for handling porcupines hedgehogs a sea urchins
also sewing

470457

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>>470456
But fingers..

The Person Who Posts As Fluttershy (Element of Self-descriptive Usernames) 470458

>>470457
oh yeah, I forgot.

butt fingers

Seabreeze Strength!TwiDasH7n2 474401

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…how has this thread gone by without proper affection for the star of the show?

This little badass had to whip his team of namby-pamby nincompoops into fighting shape to brave the last leg of a harrowing journey.

#Seabreeze 2016

Rambling!Rose//pzOM 474407

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Heavy Mole 474426

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>>474401
Dunno, just kind of ended with orgasms and butt fingers.

Seabreeze Strength!TwiDasH7n2 474587

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>>474426
…we appear to have watched two very different episodes.

Smokeydapon3!L9hT7oDU1E 475346

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>>470219
*slow clap*

Amazing reveiw

Silver Strength!TwiDasH7n2 475412

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>>470219
>>475346
>Seabreeze
>awkward in his erotic method


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