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Anonymous 357371

I'm not a Lunafag, and didn't care one way or the other about the character until "Sleepless in Ponyville," but I'm starting to think she has a lot of potential if they handle her right. Does anyone else find her poignant?

Anonymous 357380

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Ever since the storybook intro.

Anonymous 357385

I was sold on her when she was still NMM. Luna Eclipsed was a bit awkward, though at least better than the weepy fan version of her up 'til then. Loved her cameo in SiP. In a way, how it showed her helping Scoots tied in rather well with her journey from becoming NMM and through to learning better how to relate with everyone in LE.

Now I'm just concerned that somehow things will get trashed badly with the hinted-at reappearance of NMM in S4.

Anonymous 357445

OP here. I didn't like "Luna Eclipsed." Elsewhere on this board, I said it came off like a bad 'seventies holiday special, and I'll stand by that, but I agree that the version of Luna it gave us was an improvement on the contrite child in the pilot.

"Sleepless in Ponyville," however, showed us a side of Luna we hadn't seen, and I loved it. For once, she wasn't concerned with herself. Although it's not canon, I thought "Snowdrop" presented a moving portrayal of Luna, too, and if "Children of the Night" is ever finished, it looks like it's going to be beautiful:


The song already is. Mostly, I just like the idea of her. I hope the writers don't screw her up.

Anonymous 357611

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I somehow deduced that you didn't care for LE when you explained your disdain for Luna 'til SiP. The Royal Canterlot Voice bit was a major part of what I found awkward, along with Twi's presumption of giving lectures to princesses (and wtf was with Derpy's costume?) On the whole I liked it though. Aside from lots of Luna time, Derpy got to be in the foreground finally and Zecora was pretty awesome.

>"Children of the Night"

It's like they never paid much attention to the show. Like the very beginning of the very first episode where NMM's origins are explained, and they had nothing to do with expanding the empire.

S1 Luna 357613

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If they do trash her, you'll get over it. Considering that I am still mournful for the days of Season 1 long past, I have learned to accept that time is never coming back. Any attempts to try and revive that character will be met with contempt and hostility.

So I do nothing and just sit on the sidelines, occasionally participating in the community, though never staying attach. Sadly, I made this horrible mistake about being invest in the fandom.

Listen here, and listen well.
If Luna turns to crap, too fucking bad. Cry me a river. Ain't going to change a damn thing. At best, people will ignore you.

At worst? You will be ostracized and treated with the utmost contempt and disgust.

Then you shall join the ranks of the butthurt.

I am still very butthurt over the fact of the event I shall only reference as "The Betrayal".

Be thankful that you still have this site to even whine about it.
I am.

The Person Who Posts As Fluttershy (Element of Self-descriptive Usernames) 357615

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Luna needs more screen-time before I care about her.

Anonymous 357616

>I somehow deduced that you didn't care for LE when you explained your disdain for Luna 'til SiP.
"Disdain" is too strong a word, although I'll admit I might have felt some for fanatical Lunafags. She just wasn't developed, and it was clear that the writers hadn't put much thought into who she is. I didn't dislike her. I just put her in the same category as Derpy, Octavia, Lyra, Vinyl Scratch, Dr. Whooves, or any other background character.

>Like the very beginning of the very first episode where NMM's origins are explained, and they had nothing to do with expanding the empire.

I skimmed over the creators' backstory, but it wasn't obvious to me from the animatic's content. The first time I saw it, I thought it was just an extension of what Luna did in "Sleepless." See seems to care about kids.

Their fanon still doesn't bother me. I figure we've never been given any details about that point in Equestria's history anyway. I assume that whatever went down between Celestia and Luna was a lot more complicated than the series' fairy-tale opening.

I wouldn't even care if the show retconned the sisters' conflict. In the Pony Psychology fanfics, which I thought were very good, the author posited that the whole "Luna wouldn't lower the moon" bit was just a myth, a cover story, because what really happened was a whole lot darker. What she really did was create the Everfree Forest, thinking that a self-maintaining natural order was a beautiful idea. So, the weather there went out of control, animals started eating each other, natural disasters started occurring, etc., and everyone else — Celestia in particular — considered it an abomination. Luna stuck by her guns until it turned into a knock-down-drag-out castle-wrecking fight.

I liked that.
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Anonymous 357639

I've gotten to the point where I don't really care what happens in the show anymore. Hasbro seems determined to turn it back into what it was before FiM.

The pony fandom is pretty much full of useless twits, including the pre-G4 fans, so I don't much care about them either. Skimming here and EqD headlines is mostly slowly vanishing habit by now.

In both cases, there are far better things to get emotionally invested in. Was a fun ride for a while though.

Anonymous 357669

Meh. You don't have to leave.
True, the glory days of this fandom met an early demise.

But that doesn't mean that there are still little tidbits of golden nuggets hidden here and there on the occasion.

Take the Sonic and Pokemon fandom for example. They are long past their haydays, yet there is still a dedicated group of artisans that still create work for them.

Anonymous 357720

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Let him leave, till he doesn't go back to risking imageboard addiction. I haven't browsed DeviantArt,Youtube and EqDaily for ages, yet I can't stop browsing specific boards of chans, sometimes I get stuck for 12 hours in a row. If it wasn't for imageboards I would have completely stopped since June 2011. Initially I planned to only be on this pony ride for 1 month. Though I managed once to take a great 4 month break in the Q4 of 2012. Watched RealGhosbusters,Fillmore,El Tigre, played DarkSouls,Avp2,NitronicRush,DmC3 and casually posted in /vr/ and /tg/ for short periods. I wanna go back there and finish all the episodes of StaticShock. I think it the imageboard addiction might have had something to do with the fact that I wanted to join the ponybro community back on /co/ when it first started in Sept,Oct2010 but unfortunately that's impossible.

Anonymous 357773

Imageboard addiction? No such thing. If your access to imageboards was somehow surgically removed from your internet service, you would find you had an internet addiction, and if your internet service was cut entirely, you would have a game addiction, and if your computer was stripped down to only its operating system and the freebies that come with it, you'd write in WordPad and draw in Paint, because what you really have is a computer addiction.

The soft glow of the monitor, the imperceptible hypnotic flicker, the instant gratification, the excuse for procrastination and avoidance, the distraction from the existential terror of simply being alive: this is what our Electronic Friends give us, and it is more satisfying than interacting with any other human could ever be.

Go to school. Go to work. Retreat. Consume. Obey. This ride never ends. You're here for life.

Anonymous 359036

The thing which get me interested in the character is her fall into nightmare moon. If done right, it can show how a character can fall, how others fail to notice, how they inadvertently contributed etc. If they wanted to shoe horn a message into it.

But on a deeper level, it could be used for great storytelling. I'm actually writing a fanfiction to tell that kind of story.

BUTT I wouldn't get your hopes up. From the clip we have already seen, Twilight see's Celestia's memories JUST as Luna turns into nightmare. So no actual reason for the fall. And the crappy comic book storyline of 'she was possessed the whole time' really dampened my hopes for anything official on this character being good.

LyraTheFlirt!!Ah2q8cdspr 359045

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I am hoping the reason for NMM's return is because they simply traveled back in time and met Luna the day she decided to rebel. Is was kinda hinted on twilight's hot minute.

Still, I won't get my hopes up.

Anonymous 359063

>…the crappy comic book storyline of 'she was possessed the whole time' really dampened my hopes for anything official on this character being good.
OP here. Me too. In fact, it was the first thing I thought of when you said you were interested in her fall: But she didn't fall. She was pushed. The devil made her do it. That's what the comic book said. However, the end of your post beat me to the punch.

I really hated that arc. I've come to the conclusion that it's not the comics I like, it's just Cook & Price. I love everything they've done, but I don't like a single thing that any of the other teams have cranked out. At least Twilight's micro had kind of a sweet, totally harmless-to-canon story, but that art…

Anyway, yeah, "The Devil Made Me Do It" is lame. I suspect Hasbro had something to do with that. God forbid that Luna have a dangerous character flaw. All the recurring characters have to be nice. She was not responsible for what happened.


Anonymous 359137

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A young princess named Nightmare Moon, who was a pupil of mine until she turned to naughtiness, helped the forces of Chaos hunt down and destroy the Alicorn knights. She betrayed and murdered Luna.

The Person Who Posts As Fluttershy (Element of Self-descriptive Usernames) 359470

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How much did they go into the cause of Luna's corruption? Did they totally absolve her?

Anonymous 359474

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Well, it doesn't exactly say where the nightmare forces came from to begin with, but it kind of implies that it did the same thing to Rarity that it did to Luna. That it basically kept prodding at at their fears and insecurities until they gave in and sort of allowed the nightmare forces to possess them.

So yeah, they say that Luna still got jealous and bitter on her own, but then the nightmare forces just exacerbated it probably by saying things like "Yeah, none of the ponies appreciate your night, but we do!" and are what actually caused her to become Nightmare Night.

Anonymous 359475

She was a villain and a night god greater than the sun, I'd say she can do anything she damn well pleased.
A depressed personality really doesn't fit a god. The traits: uncaring, mischievious, evil, ego-centric, creationist, are more fitting.
My first view…mostly because of the little sister thing, was of a combo between bookworm, eccentric, tomboy.
Also more active in her actions(spells), attentionwhoring, and less benevolent/more uncaring to contrast with her bigger sister.
Right now because of S2E4 I'd like to see her less of a psycho, more laidback and rational.
I was expecting Nightmare to use a 20-30year old voice rather than 50old one, because of the ''little sister'' mention, but I wasn't expecting her normal form to be so small.
Weird enough fanfics ended up having more characterizations of her than artfags ever did.

The Person Who Posts As Fluttershy (Element of Self-descriptive Usernames) 359633

That doesn't seem too bad. It allow her to be to fault while till retaining the potential for a sympathetic character.
Reminds me of Fulgrim

Anonymous 359639

I don't see how this would leave her any fault at all. She didn't do anything wrong or evil, it was this external force that manipulated her.

The Person Who Posts As Fluttershy (Element of Self-descriptive Usernames) 359641

It was manipulating her by appealing to her fears and insecurities. Those faults have to be there for it to happen, but she still remains sympathetic because these are the sort of faults even the best of us have.

ShadowSonic 359879

Animetism pls.
The villain was fucking retarded for continously blaming Luna for an indirect thing, just like the love ending.It feels like they didn't care, same for Rarity's insecurity which made no sense, it has no real motivation behind it.

Anonymous 360146

>Those faults have to be there for it to happen, but she still remains sympathetic because these are the sort of faults even the best of us have.
But the thing is, she already had those faults before this comic! In the pilots, she was still at "fault" for growing bitter and resentful, but she was also at fault for, you know, the whole going crazy and trying to create an everlasting night thing. Her motivations made her sympathetic sure, but she was solely responsible for her actions. And I could hardly say that being bitter is in and of itself a fault on the same level as getting rid of the sun… One isn't a bad guy for simply having emotions. One is a bad guy for acting on those emotions and doing bad things.

The comics, however, basically say "it's okay, Luna, you can still be sympathetic, but your actions were more caused by this evil nightmare force and not you!"

Anonymous 360379

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I just really hope they aren't bullshitting on bringing Nightmare Moon back. My inner autist wants her to have been secretly evil the whole time.

Anonymous 360439

>My inner autist wants her to have been secretly evil the whole time.
Wow, you are really setting yourself up for disappointment.
> Discord - reformed
> Gilda - just hope she doesn't return to be reformed
> Trixie - revealed to be a lovable klutz
> Babs - misunderstood
> Sombra - dead
This show doesn't do heavy, irredeemable evil. During the first season, I dared to hope it would, but Hasbro won't let the writers go there.

The Person Who Posts As Fluttershy (Element of Self-descriptive Usernames) 360441

What if the return of NMM is result of the events in Luna eclipsed.

Anonymous 360510

Gonna laugh at a whole lot of people when the Nightmare Moon episode turns out to be a glimpse into history rather than current events.

Anonymous 360554

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Sombra is heavy irredeemable evil, although it's true he was obliterated (unless they decide to grow him back from that horn). Diamond Tiara, while not hardcore evil, is consistently a boogerface and has not changed from that in the slightest.


I would slowpony but apparently not everyone agrees on this interpretation. Twilight finds Celestia's Pensieve.

ShadowWolfDarkDeathDragon666 !N.7vhSq926 360838

>I'm starting to think she has a lot of potential if they handle her right.

>Hasbro handling anything right.

>Does anyone else find her poignant?

Shes not married so I doubt she is "with child"

Anonymous 360878

Here's how I think of Luna: This song.

Meant to sound scary and/or creepy to some upon first impressions; but as it plays out, it becomes a beautiful peace while still maintaining a "spooky" undertone.

Anonymous 360879

That music blows my mind!

Angel 360911

>comparing music to narrative. ಠ_ಠ
Eh might as well give my own.

Anonymous 360935

Anonymous 360972

Toccata and Fugue in D minor is a very famous piece. It's been used in a whole bunch of films, including Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde (1932), Fantasia (1940), 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea (1954), The Phantom of the Opera (1962), and the original Rollerball (1975, not the lame remake):


>No, this is the real Luna.
No, this:


Anonymous 361550

I'm a little concerned about the return of Nightmare Moon. We don't know what that's going to entail, but it seems like the writers are still blindly casting about in search of Luna's character. Is she a contrite little kid? An awkward, out-of-touch monarch? A concerned Dreamwalker who can show up in one's dreams to help? The last two aren't mutually contradictory, but the first kind of is, unless they explain it rather than pretending it never happened.

Are they now going to show us that she's still harboring a touch of evil? Who is this chick? I'm getting the impression that the writers have no idea.

Anonymous 363600

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Anonymous 364061

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I don't think Dash would react like that. She's aggressive as hell, and a sex maniac to boot. She'd be on top, grinding her pussy against Luna's so fast, Luna wouldn't even know what hit her.

Anonymous 364066


What if she's aggressively asexual?

Anonymous 364068

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It's one of those things we'll never find out unless someone buys the rights to the franchise from Hasbro.

That was a long-winded way of saying we'll never know.

Anonymous 367924

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She did fill me with one moment of absolute terror once, or the only episode that ever focused on her did. I was afraid <pic related> was going to become a regular character. I thought he was making his big debut. I thought we'd never be rid of him. Fortunately, we've hardly seen him since.

Anonymous 401780

>Does anyone else find her poignant?
No. Look how tiny her waist is. I wouldn't be surprised if she's a virgin.

Scootapuff!saU4Tsd4dU 401783

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Anonymous 401786

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Well, she's really, really svelte. She's Fleur-de-Lis league svelte. Getting her poignant would be a shame.

Scootapuff!saU4Tsd4dU 401788

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Anonymous 401792

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She might want to think about getting her tubes tied.

Anonymous 402206

Yes, if she keeps dancing like that in front of stallions, she might.

Anonymous 402250

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No one is Fleur-de-Lis league svelte. But if you're so enamored of her figure, whyever would you want to seal her genes away from the world? She should be out there, spreading them around!

Obviously I would be more than happy to keep an eye on her palace while she's gone.

Anonymous 402416

>Obviously I would be more than happy to keep an eye on her palace while she's gone.
Are you sure? I think she sleeps in the dungeon.

Hulkbow!SMASH/3FWA 402753

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I am thinking she is a virgin, or at least she used to be.

Anonymous 404097

I wish this was Facebook so I could like that comment.

Anonymous 404337

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Then where did Celestia's 'nephew' come from?

Hulkbow!SMASH/3FWA 404443

Black market slave trade.

LyraTheFlirt!!Ah2q8cdspr 404528

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Nephew in law?

Anonymous 404559

Word of God says that "he's the 'great great great great great great great great great great great (and probably even more greats) nephew on Celestia's and Luna's mother's side, about 52 times removed, roughly speaking.'"

As usual, making him a prince was due to Hasbro's executive meddling. He was originally supposed to be a duke.


Anonymous 404588

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>Celestia buys the strongest, most beautiful foals from savage pony tribes to serve as her royalty and her harem guards

On their mother's side? Well that just raises more questions.
>Fausticorn had children with a unicorn

Anonymous 404595

> Fausticorn had children with a unicorn
Are you referring to his lack of wings?

Originally, no one but Celestia and Luna were supposed to have the double-mutation. Cadance's wings were more executive meddling. I suspect Twilight's are as well, although I've never seen Word of God on that.

I don't know how the creative staff is supposed to do any world-building when the Hasbro suits keep throwing them curve balls. They've probably just given up.

Scootapuff!saU4Tsd4dU 404685

Well supposedly Twilicorn has been planned since the beginning. The executive meddling train crashed it into a brick wall and made it happen way earlier than was planned from what I've heard though.

Anonymous 404688

Something like that. Lauren said she planned for Twilight to succeed Celestia, but she strongly implied that she never intended for her to grow wings. She also implied that she didn't think much of the way Twilight is being handled by saying that her plans are now irrelevant, but you can interpret that without bitterness, too. She's careful about what she says.

I suspect that Lauren planned for Twilight to ascend to the throne in the very last episode, but I don't know that for a fact. Of course, for all intents and purposes, "Magical Mystery Cure" might turn out to be the last episode. We could find that S4 feels like a completely different show. If so, it'll split the fandom hard.

Scootapuff!saU4Tsd4dU 404690

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Despite everything, I am semi-optimistic. The stuff shown in the comic con trailers all looked like the pony we all know and love from before. I suppose we'll just have to see though.

Anonymous 404694

Yeah, the animatics didn't look bad. The superhero thing sure gave me pause, though. Before I even commented on it, someone else wrote, "Superheroes? Oh, great. That worked so well before." I thought the same thing.

Scootapuff!saU4Tsd4dU 404699

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I was there too, but upon further reflection, it occurred to me that they appear to be focusing on the actual super hero aspect for funsies rather than trying to hypocritically hamfist a moral on one of the ponies so it should turn out much better than the last outing. At the very least, I can't see it being much WORSE…

Anonymous 404707

It's hard to imagine anything being worse than "Mare Do Well," but I know better than that. No matter how bad things get, they can always get worse. Like…

DOCTOR: Do you want the good news first, or the bad news?

PATIENT: Give me the good news first.

DOCTOR: You have cancer!

PATIENT: What? I said give me the good news first!

DOCTOR: I did. You also have a slow flesh-eating disease that's going to eat both your face and your penis off over the next year, but maybe the cancer will kill you first! See? There's always hope…

Scootapuff!saU4Tsd4dU 404708

As an aside, I've no clue how Merriwether is still on the writing staff. Someone is massively asleep at the wheel there.

Anonymous 404709

Asleep at the wheel, or she has high-powered connections. I don't know why she's still there either. I don't understand why Renzetti green-lighted her crap in the first place.

Scootapuff!saU4Tsd4dU 404710

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Apparently writing for Spongebob carries a ton of clout or something. No excuse now though; it's been over two years. Something's up somewhere…

Anonymous 404719

SpongeBob is just not the same kind of show. It was heir to the grotesque-characters-doing-disgusting-gags routine that was funny when Ren & Stimpy did it over twenty years ago, but come on! Animation companies have run that shtick into the ground.

I liked MLP:FiM because it got away from such superficial, slapstick, cartoony nonsense. So, what did they do? Hired a superficial, slapstick, cartoony writer!

Merriwether is all wrong.

lol 480792


Anonymous 480807

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>I liked MLP:FiM because it got away from such superficial, slapstick, cartoony nonsense.

I know this is from a year ago, but man this is a stupid argument.

Anonymous 481370

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I feel her appearance in SiP was pretty much forced an unnecessary, the lesson would've had more impact on Scootaloo's character and the audience if she had to overcome her fears herself, Luna appeared as a sort of Deus Ex or aesop deliverer, but even at that she failed and Scootaloo only listened to her once there was no way out. Not to mention, her background as NMM makes less sense; why would she be resentful that the ponies slept through her night if she was able to commune with them in their sleep? (no, tje concept of nightmare forces is too cheap and bland to be acceptable, I don't disagree that it had fueled some pretty good fanfictions tho')
I liked how she was handled in Luna Eclipsed, but every other character in that episode was terrible; Twilight is just as useless as in the FiW parody, or why do they need to visit Fluttershy just to tell her to lower her voice? and why was she so scared of her? she was there when they turned her back from NMM, she was there when Celestia revealed she was her sister, she was there in the parade the whole town held to celebrate her return! I believe the Rarity scene where she tries to change her appearance would've made much more sense, finally the whole town, which apparently was actually scared of Luna in the first place ( despite holding the aforementioned parade), suddenly reconcile with her just because some kids had their fun at her expense and ...she learns to be totally okay with that?.
I think she's been mishandled as a character all the way since episode 1, one doesn't just throw a tantrum for something they want then be completely okay with anything else the next minute, there is great potential for her if they decided to show her still struggling to be accepted by society or come to terms with her position and her sister's (we see a small glimpse of it in FWtSBT). The flashback to her transformation in S4 was also a complete waste, not only it was poorly written, such an event deserves much more spotlight than what it got and contributed nothing to the plot of the episode. It would've been better to just never show it and just let the fans fantasize about it and make all the hypothesis and headcanons as we had been doing.

and now i realize i wrote all this for a thread made in 2013 on a zombie imageboard

Anonymous 481371

>I don't disagree that it had fueled some pretty good fanfictions tho')
oh hey, here i'm talking about the dreamwalking, not the nightmare forces, set the cursor on the wrong spot

Thunderanon 481376

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Anonymous 481400

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Potential usually refers to something that's not being utilized. So with that in mind, what about Luna isn't being realized exactly?

If anything, there are background ponies with more potential than Luna.

Awesome eel 481443

She is one of my favorite, I think she understand friendship better than Celestia herself, it's kinda implied has how she was able to use the elements of harmony alone against discord once.

Anonymous 481444

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who can handle luna when everyone is busy trying to handle all this dong

Anonymous 481519

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You're joking right?

Anonymous 481525

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