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Anonymous 3270016

Spartans were expected to have male lovers, but purely physical relationships between males was condemned by the state. Instead the older lover was expected to act as the guardian and guide during the younger lover's military training.

3270028

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>>3270016
This was common in a lot of ancient cultures.

In fact, it was very common for men to have relationships with other men, even while married. A lot of these cultures actually viewed women as tools for creating offspring and keeping the house while men saved their actual romance for other men.

In other words, history was pretty gay.

Heavy Mole 3270052

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>>3270028
Yes. This is pretty disarming at first when you encounter it in some of Plato's dialogues. In fact, it's in the Symposium where Socrates makes the distinction between erotic love and the "love" between men (a distinction not all of his contemporaries made) where we get our notion of "Platonic" love from.

The Reverend Hands!Slavshit.Y 3270083

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Bags 3270095

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The gay agenda.

Heavy Mole 3270100

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Anonthony!AppLeJAcK. 3270105

>>3270052
>people believe socrates and plato were real people and they wrote these documents
>there are no existing extant manuscripts of them and the only copies are about a thousand years after the alleged lives of the writers, and even then, only in less than a dozen manuscripts
>people disbelief the authenticity of the bible despite thousands of manuscripts that date back to within a hundred years of the lives of the authors

just irks me when people use the 'lol we only have pieces of it lmfao' argument.

Bags 3270107

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>>3270100
They're invading our dreams?

Anonymous 3270124

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>daily reminder that Sparta ate shit against 300 dudes.

Heavy Mole 3270129

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>>3270105
Old Testament or New?

>>3270107
And our personal space

Anonthony!AppLeJAcK. 3270139

>>3270129
the new. over 5,000 manuscripts and portions of manuscripts dating to within a hundred years of the authors lives.

Heavy Mole 3270146

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>>3270139
Who were the authors?

3270164

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>>3270146
Books are books.

At the end of the day who said what is irrelevant. The only thing that matters is what was said.

Words have the same meaning regardless of who wrote them.

Heavy Mole 3270174

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>>3270164
True. But we were talking about the historicity of the text, so it's pertinent.

Anonthony!AppLeJAcK. 3270229

>>3270174
Who were the authors of the alleged works of Socrates, Plato and Aristotle?

3270243

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>>3270174
Seems like a silly thing to care about.

Heavy Mole 3270245

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>>3270229
Oh, I'm not fucking with you. I don't have an angle or anything. I was actually curious if you knew something I didn't. Matthew, Luke, those guys? Do we know anything about them?

Heavy Mole 3270253

>>3270243
Not from a literary/historical point of view.

Anonthony!AppLeJAcK. 3270316

>>3270245
We know Luke was an educated man; a physician. We know his interpretation of events was written in a way to best communicate to other educated people, within the gentile circles.

Heavy Mole 3270367

>>3270316
What school did he come from?

3270386

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>>3270253
I suppose.


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