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Writer's Workshop — /fic/ Community Event 1631

High on the tailwinds of our recent Thanksgiving /fic/ Writeoff, inspiration has struck for our next community event: a Writer's Workshop.

But this won't be your mother's workshop; oh no. Instead, we'll be having a full out convention-style event, with different reviewers and writers doing individual or pair panels on a subject or topic of their expertise, as it pertains to writing. Example topics might include, for example, creating emotive imagery, choosing appropriate verbiage, or the basics of elementary grammar. Any well-known author/reviewer, or /fic/ (or #fic) regular who feels confident in a certain topic is welcome to apply to hold their own panel through this thread.

In the meantime, we also have the intended audience of this Workshop event—you, the writers and underclassmen reviewers. If you've got any suggestions for the procedure of the Workshop, or anything specific you'd like to see, or even just well-wishes and a note of attendance, feel free to post it in the thread below as well.

As it stands now, the Workshop will likely be a panel/round-robin type of thing, where Skype and/or Livestream are utilized along with GDocs and a chat client to gain the maximum interactivity between panelist and audience. If there are any other suggestions or thoughts on the format of the Workshop itself, please—well. You know the drill by now.

Anyways, we haven't decided on time or days yet, so don't worry about not being able to attend. We'll likely spread this Workshop over a several day period—even as long as a week—and have different panels at all different times of the day. Maybe some will even repeat, for those unlucky people who had to miss one that they wanted.

!!Applejack/Anonthony will also be trying to contact knighty and Sethisto for advertising on fimfiction and EqD, respectively, so be ready for an influx of inquisitive newbies. If he is successful, then please be gentle with them. We'll show the rest of the Brony fandom that /fic/ is an especially gracious host.

For the forty-second time, please leave any thoughts, requests, suggestions, or comments in the thread below. Hope you all like this idea!

-Golden Vision

1633

Sounds like an awesome idea! I would definitely benefit from a panel on how to write engaging descriptions/narration…

Important Information! 1634

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Check out this compendium of suggested panelists and topics!:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1c6lYcAzvNi9-asi1S-o-BXAJ26GVf4io-aITOrlkqX4/edit

1635

>>1634
You might want to make it public. It says I don't have permission to access.

Edit: Nevermind. Works now.
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TheNumber25!lFlLWvzNuI 1638

I am certainly waiting for this event. Personally, I would listen to pretty much anything creative writing-related.

If I could only suggest/ask to schedule the events on weekends? I'm gonna miss a lot otherwise, what with my time zone and all. Also, I do hope that everything will be recorded for those that won't be able to make it. In the end, this could even make a basis for an advice anthology or even a proper writing guide.

JKinsley!xR570Wc1AA 1645

>>1634
Suggestion for a topic: How to Write a Good Pairing (Or How Not to Write Yet Another TwiDash, AppleDash, RariJack, TaviScratch, or LyraBon fic)

I could do the panel via IRC or Skype messages (no calls) or if anyone else wants to volunteer to join the panel or do it themselves, that's fine too.

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>>1638
You'd have to check with Anonthony on that.

>>1645
Cool! Added.

Anonthony!EEEEEEEE2c 1651

>>1638
>>1650
The schedule is open for me. If you guys think it would be best on, say, a Fri-Sun, that would be fine. A 3 day Workshop.

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>>1645
Added to ze doc.

Anonymous 1659

Since this board allows mature content properly tagged, perhaps someone would be willing to do a panel on writing adult-themed fics?

While some can be very well done, most authors could benefit from some suggestions.

1674

Squee!

Dammit , GV, you need t stop being so awesome! You're making the rest of us look bad…


How about what I emailed you about, GV? How to vary up your style so it's more than just dialogue/body language. Ways of showing things beyond body descriptions, how to "tell properly."
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1678

>>1659
Hm…maybe. It's up to Anonthony, so I'd suggest asking him. I don't see any reason why someone like Tactical or Applejinx couldn't do it, if so interested—why don't you pop into the IRC sometime and see if they'd be interested?

>>1674
Well, I was actually planning on doing a different panel on my own (on outlining and brainstorming a story), but you're free to either offer to do it yourself or to go bother someone who you think would make a good panelist for this.

Applejinx !tDashiepow 1681

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>>1678
Does sound interesting- I'll keep an eye on this then :)

Applejinx !tDashiepow 1682

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You know, I've written more than three hundred thousand words of poni-fiction after doing five hundred thousand words of previous original work. I'm also capable of talking about writer's block and general motivation. Jes' sayin'…

And of course structuring long-form novels and building to an effective ending. I don't think anyone who's read my books would argue too hard about that one.

JKinsley!xR570Wc1AA 1683

>>1682
I think that would be a little more important than hearing about how to write the spicier side of pony. ;)

It's fairly difficult for a lot of authors to write a proper, satisfying ending. I think it would be good to hear from an expert about doing that, either to improve our own work or to have a reference for others.

1684

>>1682
You could do two panels…

Heh. I'm just kidding. Feel free to do whatever you want ^.^ You were just the first person I thought of when I heard "mature fic" is all.

So—what should I put you down for?

Applejinx !tDashiepow 1689

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>>1684
Anything you like, and I'll try to deliver :)

1693

>>1678

Oh-ho-ho, no! I can't do it. Dude, I mean it when I say I have no clue what the hell I'm doing! I just write, and apparently I do it right.

Anonthony!EEEEEEEE2c 1694

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>>1678
I think it'd be a good idea to have say, one panel for Mature fics. It doesn't have to be a big production, but something along the lines of writing that kind of thing into a worthy story… There are a lot of those kinds of stories that are alright, but would stand a little advice in crafting them without coming off forced. Because there are also plenty of authors/stories that work them in beautifully and they stand toe-to-toe with 'regular' fics in terms of quality I think we can do something really helpful for authors (that will also help them in their overall writing ability.) But it shouldn't be something that detracts from the overall Workshop, and only if someone is interested in doing a panel/session on it.

Tactical!fRainBOoMw 1697

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Did someone say #mature? Because I could've sworn—

… Oh! Hi, everypony! :D

Seriously though I'm not really an expert on… um, anything. No matter how big I talk. And no matter how twisted of a little pony brain I've got.

I'd sure love to host a panel or something, but I have no idea why anyone would want to hear what I have to say.
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1720

So, a writer's Workshop, eh?

<INSERT ALL MY DEVIOUS PLANS HERE>

I'd love to take part, but seeing as how worldbuilding is already taken, maybe
"How to come up with something original?"

…maybe not. Um, let me think.

Hm. How about: "Magic is code with a pretty name: How to mess with canon without breaking everything."

I think that's okay.

Kurbz 1721

>>1645
I'll join this.

Also, I can host one on writing certain characters (Trixie, Twilight, and AJ are my personal bests)

1722

>>1720
>>1721
Added in :D

>>1697
Sooo…any idea of what you WOULD want to present?

Anonymous 1964

This will take a good deal of organization and getting everyone together and on-board, but it might be a huge boost to visibility to authors who need help, as its something that can be promoted to pretty much all the places authors and stories are posted.

If this could be put together before Christmas, I think it would be a fantastic boon. But it'll take some people stepping up and taking charged.

1968

>>1964
As far as I know, Anonthony is in charge of this little project. Golden Vision is just here to us off our collective asses and doing something.

I think the important things we need to be doing right are preparing for our panels and promoting this event everywhere we can.

Anonthony!EEEEEEEE2c 1969

>>1968
Basically, I just had an idea. I'll be happy to do official promotion to other sites, and put things together from a site perspective, but yeah, getting those who are interested in doing a panel and such, that's for the individual members to decide and be ready.

This thread should serve as co-ordination.

1970

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>>1964
>>1968
>>1969
I'd be more than happy to take the reins, so to speak. Garnot's offered to help me out with my queue, so I should have more time to help out as "community organizer," if you will.

Anonthony!EEEEEEEE2c 1971

>>1970
I think that would be great. I'll do everything I can to help and organize, but obviously /fic/ reviewers themselves know their own dynamic better.

On that note, lemme drag !!Spike's tail in here.

Filler 1972

>>1971
Gonna be honest, my /fic/ involvement is going to be pretty low for the next, hmm… eight days. (It's finals week.) Though disregarding that, I'm not sure what I can do to help besides frontlining and producing content for the endeavor.

Topic Idea 2028

Think I tried posting this idea in that other workshop thread of yours, but here it is again:

How about an Old vs. New?

You take an author's work and you can compare the very first draft of that story to the final product.

Some fics look quite different in their first go-arounds (I know mine certainly did), so it might be cool to see how criticism and feedback actually changes a fic from what it once was into what it then becomes.

Did the author keep their story's direction, even if they way they went about it totally changed? Is the first draft even close to what the story ended up being?

2030

>>2028
Hm…that could be interesting. I'm not so sure how popular it would be, though; it'd certainly be academically interesting, though it might not be an obvious aid to writers themselves.

2031

>>2030

I think it's be something that could be very fun to see.

You'd need to find an author who would give you an old copy of their work(the older the better), and you could discuss the process of how they had to apply criticism to their work. Bring in their reviewers, if they remember them, and let them discuss how they felt about each part of the process.

If it's a well known story, it could be helpful to see how they became great by virtue of tinkering with the story and listening to, and properly applying, criticism.

For example, what criticism did they listen to, and should they have heeded it if they ignored it in favor of their own methods?
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2032

>>2031
I could offer up Part One of Canterlot's Guests for that. Getting the original reviewers on board might be difficult, since it was reviewed a) over a year ago now and b) included Vimbert and Twilight Snarkle.

But, I can tell you right now that the current version looks much different to the original.

vimbert!23hC9EoLsg 2034

>>2032

I'd have to see if I still had the old review on my hard drive (as the thread the review was in has long since 404ed), but this sounds like a neat idea. I'd be up for it.

Getting Snarkle is likely going to be next to impossible, though.
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>>2033
Excuse me, my good sir, but you appear to be in the wrong thread.

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>>2191
You're looking for >>1973 good sir.

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Well, I'm not too sure about what's going on with this thing, but I vaguely remember someone saying they'd be interested in my ramblings about organising your files and stuff. So I wrote some ramblings: http://blog.rogerdodger.me/post/38144283872/file-management-and-story-formatting

Enjoy.

Tactical!fRainBOoMw 2513

>>1722

I keep wanting to join in, but even APART from the fact that I work every day, I don't consider myself to have a kind of "specialty." At any rate, it would be better for me to talk about others wouuld enjoy hearing, not what I woudl enjoy talking about, right? So, what's something that I would have something different to say about than other people would?

dolfeus!doseuxbE3s 2520

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>>2507

Yes! Thank you greatly. :D

I was the one who expressed interest in organizational tips, and I am not disappointed.

Though, honestly, if you see my computer in its current state, you'd be pretty disappointed. I have loose files scattered to Timbuktu. >_>

Wazgoinon 2521

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Okay guys; so here's what's going to happen.

I've got a Skype account—username is animeguy110. If there's anyone who wants to be a part of this Workshop, whether as a panelist, a participant, or an organizer, then friend me and I'll add you to a new chat room in which we can discuss all this. Once that's up, we'll try and schedule some day and time during which this can all be discussed. It's looking less likely that this will be possible before the New Year, but I'm hoping that we'll be able to put something together by early January.

If you've got any questions, shoot me an email.
-GV
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Tactical 2537

>>2521

You're gonna make me use Skype? Ugh. Fine.

2539

>>2537
Ya, Gordon is dumb. Could just make an IRC channel. Skype is more insular because you have to ask for invites, and the logging is worse.

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A possible suggestion:

Have the "entrance" be a hub Google Doc with links going to the different "stands", which could be either IRC rooms like #Workshop_1, #Workshop_2 or stuff. I'm not sure how you'd want to slot in the livestream/Skype, but I might as well toss this in.

Tactical 2619

>>2542

This is a good idea. Bring people in via something that you need only click on.

Let's talk more about the format. An all-weekend affair, like a convention? Scheduled events like "panels?"


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