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Of Opening Scenes and Men Ion-Sturm 539[View]

#Story Help #Discussion #Just for Fun

Every writer knows this feeling: You have a real whopper of a story idea, something that's burning a hole in your very soul as it demands to be unleashed upon hapless paper by cruel pen (or pencil for those of us with sausage fingers). Everything is laid out, from beginning to end. The climax is as stupendous as it is moving, the subtle nuances of character development that makes them seem almost like old friends you've known for your entire life, vivid and captivating descriptions that make the world pop out of the page…

Now if only you could make the first damn sentence!

It's like trying to roll a fifty-ton stone; once it's going nothing will stop you, but reaching that point is a story in and of itself, and not a particularly interesting one at that. Every time you jot down that opening you scrap it, disgusted by the vile mash of letters and broken dreams that stares back. Maybe you'll manage to create something that doesn't make your stomach roil, only to hit the same problem upon finishing the paragraph, the page, the chapter! A never-ending cycle of self-doubt as you question your very existence, or at least the reason why the abomination of prose that stands before you hasn't been removed from it.

But lo! that is the purpose of this thread, to help you power through such trials and tribulations. How, you ask? Why, it's quite simple.

See that backspace button?

Rip it out by its roots! Crush it with a hammer! Incinerate it with a lighter and hairspray bottle! It matters not how you remove its insidious temptations, only that you do not use it once in this entire exercise. Your purpose is singular; to write, to put your words to work, to create. Furthermore, you will not move backwards to add additional words or make use of the Insert function to overwrite your mistakes. There is only one direction to go and that is forward. Set a time limit for yourself, it matters not whether it is mere minute or an hour or a day, nor should it concern you if you go past this into the tail end of the morning. Your only objective will be to add to the muse, to build a foundation and see what wonders you are capable of creating without such ugly sirens like as “flow”, “grammar” and “punctuation” demanding attention undivided. There w
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Bleeding Rain!DROPScczL2 7323

just for the hell of it I'm going to try this but I warn you my mistakes get ugly once thay stary happening. okay, cool I thought I was going to get through that whole first sentence withou a single mistake. huh. I mist have improved some since that last time i did this. it was hardly reabable. this is a very interesing excetcise, because it helps show me my common fingering habits while timypng. things I can learnto fix and/oravoid in the future. huh, kinda fun actually. it's initially frustrating that I can't fix what are obvious errors, but since I'm going to learn something from them it's nice n the long run. okay typing done. let's sww what it looks lie.

Smokeydapon3!L9hT7oDU1E 7328

>>539
I love to write but I cant write without topic because im too self-conscious

Anonymous 7329

>>7328
What does being too self-conscious entails?


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Anonymous 7326[View]

What would /fic/ say about reviewing the show, starting with season 4?
The idea is to keep literate people who know what they're talking about in one place and give some good, save-worthy reviews.

Anonymous 7327

>>7326
Like, the whole show, or just S4?


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3k words a week. 6735[View]

What timing! I've been looking for some inspiration, and youtube sent me an email that this video was just posted yesterday.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBBfC8FY70c&list=PL8YydnShI45jSbRdMeyQ-SiKJDKYaTeMe

I'm taking up Brandon Sanderson's challenge, and I invite you to join me. I'll be posting a link to a Gdoc every week, of 3k words or more. The reason? Accountability. It's the only thing that ever drives me other than an incessant story that won't get out of my head. I have none of the latter at the moment, but when it comes around I want to be able to write it properly. So, I'm using the tool of accountability via peers to hold me to 3k a week. Thus, I'm making a public thread. Feel free to climb on board.
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Bleeding Rain!DROPScczL2 7322

>>7321
it's a thing I figured out how to do a few months ago. I forgot I had it up.

Anonymous 7324

>>7322
How do you manage to do that?

7325

>>7324
special characters


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No writing skillz Anonymous 7311[View]

I don't know why, but browsing this board just made me want to write, I have no idea how to write, I don't have ideas for stories, either, and I don't read much, either, I'm basically some complete fuck up who just got a little bit inspired to stop doing nothing in it's daily life.

I was wondering if any of you could possibly knew, where should I start about it, if you ask me, I'd want to write adventure/epic themed stories.
The story itself, I don't have one.

As in drawing you usually start "drawing circles, copying, structure" and pretty much whatever, so what would be the "drawing circles" for writing?

Thanks.
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Anonymous 7313

>>7312
I've been on /ic/, for some time already, I know the importance and wonders of criticism, it's what you need, in order to improve, to be humble, realize that you're not perfect, you're far from it, also realize that you will never be perfect.

I understand that part, what I still don't know, is… "how to start writing"?

Casca 7314

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>>7313
Take an idea in your head. Write it out. If you lack ideas to write, join http://writeoff.rogerdodger.me/ for writeoff prompts which will help. Really, the only way to truly start is to throw words into a page. You could make a parody of Harry Potter. Rewrite it, except Harry's gay(?) - and you'd be surprised how drastically different the direction of the story would be when the direction of that awkward teenage sexual tension shifts.

If you lack ideas, it's all about firing your brain into making them. "What if" scenarios are a good place to start - take something accepted as canon, twist it into something else - "What if Derpy was actually a scientist in the Discordian Era who made the alicorns?" - and run with it.

If you have some kind of conflict within yourself, that works too. I started writing my first serious ponyfic because I was irritated at the stupid!Derpy stuff everyone was writing at the time. That led to the above question, and, well, 50k words later I'm still plodding along. But, if you're not invested enough in the fandom or the show to have this, the first idea might work for you.
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Anonymous 7316

>>7314
>What if scenarios.
Wonderful, this is the fuel that I needed, Thank you so much.


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Anonymous 6994[View]

Have you ever had those moments where you force yourself to write just because you can't find any decent stories, or ones with what you want?

I tend to do this, but I'm just horrible at writing.
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Anonymous 7284

I want to write clop,but I don't know where to start.

Anonymous 7285

>>7284
Depends if you want to go romantic or erotic. The difference is in the set-up leading up to said clop, but basically you just need some kind of excuse for so-and-so to get it on. So long as you can deliver, then the excuse can be as flimsy and unrealistic as you want. Perverts aren't too judgmental when it comes to plot, but rather with "plot" :P

Anonymous 7287

>>6998
But how will you get your fix of "Average Alex suddenly from his unhappy life into best friends in Ponyville"?

>>7284
Porn is about lust, right? If you understand each character's lust (how they feel and why) and can communicate it, I feel like you're most of the way there. The mechanical aspects aren't really paramount.

If you need a premise, /anon/ is always happy to have people write porn to their specifications.


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Future of /fic/ - Electric Boogaloo 7185[View]

#ImageBoardProblems #ThisThreadAgain

Let’s not beat around the bush here… /fic/ is dying. What was once a fairly vibrant community that attracted newcomers and new threads daily is now a board where month-old threads are still on the front page.

But what to do? Well, we’ve been asking this question for some time. The same old ideas get thrown around a lot—contests, advertisements, more reviews, etc. These are all good solutions, but they still don’t address the elephant in the room.

We’re split between two websites.

Facing facts: MLPchan has not provided much organic traffic from other parts of the site. It’s pretty much just been us here for the last 8 months. The few outsiders who have come around to stay came as their own community, deciding to stick only to their own threads that could just as well go in /anon/. By contrast, Ponychan’s /fic/ is still getting posts in it from curious outsiders looking in.

The only way to sustain a community is if there are new members joining as old ones leave. Without this influx of new users, we are left with what we have now.

So I wonder if moving back to Ponychan is a possibility. I decided to reread the last thread of the move discussion (reading that thread in hindsight is kind of depressing; do not recommend), and the prevailing points of contest regarding the move were:

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I've made a list of all the Fimfic groups that I recommend joining to be a more active member on the site. Please, have a look.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/17y3q43_nkakbD3DqnhPQOchebcLsHFF741WfC4blUVI/edit

Present!PeRFeCt9JM 7266

And speaking of writeoffs, with one starting Friday, where's the thread gonna be?

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Today I wrote... Anonymous 7197[View]

It doesn't need to be a story. It doesn't need to be in context. It doesn't need to be good. Post any snippet of fiction that you wrote in the last twenty-four hours. (Behind hide tags, if you please, so other posters aren't intimidated by your massive throbbing word count.)

This thread's here to motivate regular writing – daily writing. Whether it's a five minute prompt or a ten hour binge, whether it's Pony or Star Trek or Original Setting Do Not Steal, make a post that shouts to the universe, "I did the motherfucker."

Every post should contain {h}a new fictional snippet.{/h} The rest is up to you: offer context, talk about the process, propose prompts/ideas, comment on other people's stuff, or do none of the above as you please. (With one caveat: no criticism of written work posted. It's too new and too raw. Stick to the parts you like.)

Write! Share.
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Prompt: It was the first snowfall of the year.

These two characters are from a story I'm supposedly writing. Lonnie's the protagonist and viewpoint character of that story, in which she becomes locked inside a transdimensional hotel that eats souls. She's a wizard in training; clever and studious, but without the innate power to become a proper magus. Rough-spoken and masculine by nature.

Turin is a bard plucked from his time a hundred years ago, forced to serve as staff for the hotel until Lonnie busts him free. The following text would fall much later, as Lonnie continues the journey that was interrupted by the hotel.

It was the first snowfall of the year, not yet begun to stick, thank Pratos. Turin held tight to Lonnie as she controlled the thundering beast on which they rode. Her form felt tense and not the slightest bit supple, clutched through cold-weather cloaks. Fear and scent aroused him nonetheless. He tried not to make it obvious.

Other inputs crept to the fore. His ass chafed. The snow was beautiful, more so than he remembered before his time out of the world. It obscured his vision like a speckled fog, and gave the path ahead a sense of mystery. A few flakes stuck in his fur. Turin's body began to relax, drew all the nervous tension from his limbs back to his fluttering heart, which loyally pumped it right up to his mouth.

"November, that's early for snow," he prattled, "isn't it? That's part of going north. When we pass around the Horkset range and head back south, it should be warm again. Warm-ish."

Lonnie grunted. "Think so."

"Well. Good. My paws dry out in the cold. It's hard on the voice. And the wolf tribes we might meet up here, well…" He grinned, as charming as he could make it, for the benefit of the back of her head. "I'd love to sit around a fire, but I've no plans to be eaten or to buy a nomad's sheep. Still–"
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No prompt, just started from an image of waves on beach. The initial bit didn't look like it had potential to carry on, so I figured it could serve as intro and cut to a different group.

First writing session in a while done on paper. Paper's great.

Spearheads glittered on the tide. The Inspector chewed an opiate straw and eyed the wreck, presumbed to be the armsrunner Kamassa.

"So what sunk her?" Lord Parslow demanded. "I see ship to ship, doesn't look anything like it. Golby reef only dumps crashers south of here. Where's the crew?"

The Inspector shut her eyes. Waves broke in rhythm that drowned distraction and let the fragments of intuition slur together. Almost visibly…

Ah. "Sabotage."



Captain Gaross did not go down with his ship, but down he went; strength finally sappy by icy water and blood loss from the blast. Even around a meager fire, his son refused to speak. Mourning, Tildy supposed. Or shock.
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Anonymous 7254

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Listened to a song with a blank doc open. Typed a few words of the song, typed a few words that seemed to follow naturally, and then wrote whatever that snipped inspired. "Dissipating in the night like a long-forgotten life." Stuff that sounds poetic but doesn't actually make much sense = perfect prompt.
Entropy presides over the plains, chilling our world, costing every farmer his crops until the end of time. For time is ending.

We believed that entropy compounded itself naturally; that force had to be applied to wrench it into order. The force of nature, powered by the planet and the sun. But the application of chaos was never uniform.

Rokel got beaten with the 'order' stick. Some kind of counterbalance to the raging elements, who can say? He's static. Undying, unchanging, save for minimal internal shifts. He moves, he talks, but his memories are locked in place, and no power we've tried can alter his body beyond the most superficial dimpling of the skin. For a few minutes, he's like a person; then he forgets. No deep memories.

Some of us locked up partially. Tomeia's leg froze, jammed the flow of blood. Her heart burst before anyone though to hack it off.

Katim nudges me. I do not feel it in my skin – my spine is paralyzed – but the little shake jostles my jaw and the back of my head. "What news?"

"The silo," she says. "Melwit figured out a trick. Come see."

Katim is not the brightest. To my knowledge, entropy has let her be, but her mind was clumsy before. Still, her body is more than strong enough to carry one crippled elder. "Carry me."

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Machiavelli 7126[View]

I need to learn about build-up, structure, pacing, transitions, diversity, etc.
Stuff such as when should characters get a break from the story in order to talk and eventually solve the puzzle, and how many scenes should there be?
Suggestions for paying attention to multiple characters at once and give them each an important role, rather than cram them all into one force and be done with it.
And all that great useful jazz, to make artistic writing which feels clear, enjoyable, filled with content and solved every loose end.

Where do I start?
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Anonymous 7249

>>7130

>better writing than George R. R. Martin


Now that, I find hard to believe. George R. R. Martin is a literary god. I suppose I'll just have to read Patrick Rothfuss for myself.

soundslikeponies!bQsJPGMNfw 7251

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>>7249
George R.R. Martin is far from a literary god. He's a good storyteller. Primarily, he's good at building characters in the grey and at dialogue. His narrative is only average in most places and his flow is a bit of a hack job. And if A Feast for Crows can tell you anything, it's that he's not even consistent at those things.

7252

>>7249
His books are also very "Seinfeld Is Unfunny" now. Pretty much everyone who writes fantasy now was inspired by them.

Also, I hate how books only get popular in this day and age when someone adapts them into the visual medium.


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Anonymous 7177[View]

Can an experienced writer turn this script into a proper story with good exposition and lengthy transitions? Something above nine-thousand words. Not the creator of it, I just found it and I'd love to read it in a proper format.

http://www.fimfiction.net/story/67127/the-return-of-harmony-alternate-ending

7178

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>Can an experienced writer turn this script into a proper story with good exposition and lengthy transitions?
Answer: Yes.

>Not the creator of it

I think you should inform/ask the author of it, if it is allowed. Copyright is non existent, but it's the nice thing to do.

Anonymous 7180

>>7178
Not when it halts productivity. Plus he hasn't made a post ever since and he didn't leave any contact information.

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>>7180

>Matthais123

>Last Seen: 3d, 5h ago

Just send the author a private message. If you don't get a response within around a week or so, just move on. Ideas are cheap, and we all have them in abundance. Surely you can find at least one to suit your fancy (though I do not guaranty anyone will agree to be your writeslave).


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Tactical Insertions 3582[View][Last 50 Posts]

#Reviewer#Queue_Is_Open

Hello and welcome to the first ever Tactical Writing Post! I've been ponying since Lesson Zero, I opened my fimfiction account about a year ago, and I've been around /fic/ ever since. I always thought about making a thread like this, but I never really wanted to be saddled with obligation like that. Well, I still don't, but I do want to offer something to others that I am immensely thankful for in my own writing endeavors. Having a good editor, someone who's willing to talk to you about your strengths and weaknesses, is pure gold.

I'm hardly a poni superstar, but you could do worse than me. I've written a whole bunch of things. Out of my things, a couple are on EQD, a couple have racked views in the multiple thousands, a couple have been praised by ponies who I greatly respect, and one actually got a quote on wtfponyfanfiction. Check me out at http://www.fimfiction.net/user/TacticalRainboom and turn on "show mature" for extra goodies.

If you feel like I'm someone whose point of view might be useful to you, go ahead and read the guidelines below, then either submit your story or just talk to me–if all you're looking for is a writepony's opinion on something, I'm totally happy to oblige. There's no queue for quick chats! Also, if that's what you want, try to find me on the IRC. I'm there all the time, and it's a much better way to communicate.

Thread information:
+ Please talk to me about stuff. Talk to me as much as you want about your review, about your fic, about your cat, whatever. I'm here to help; I can answer whatever questions you have.

+ I have no content restrictions whatsoever. Email things to me if they can't be posted in a non-mature thread. I mean it–this is part of the reason for this thread's existence. In the unlikely case that you actually manage to squick me, I apologize.

+ I will point out technical problems, but I will not give you a grammar sweep. I am here to help you with author-blindness and to give advice–if your mechanics are weak, I will tell you what's wrong, but the work of fixing it is up to you.

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Review response DemPonies 7047

Okay, thanks for the help!

I'll definitely keep this process of yours in mind.

Tactical 7049

>>7047

More to the point, work on structures and show-dont-tell.

If you want story advice, then ask me again when you've got a new chapter because yeah.

Not Really a Review 7144

Title: Moving the Stars

Wordcount: However many you want to read, but if you want a total of all chapters it's 22, 862

Synopsis: Trixie wants to learn shit. Astro is her mentor and teachers her stuff. Then a bad guy comes and gets killed. Hooray for stories!

Link: http://www.fimfiction.net/story/128051/moving-the-stars

I'm really just posting it here so you don't forget. Feel free to read as much as you want, and give feedback if you feel like it, but if you want the "Mane6 outdone by Trixie" part, it's in Chapter 6
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The Future of /fic/ 6936[View]

This is not another PSA asking for more TTG reviewers. I already tried that a couple months ago, and the most that happened was Minjask came out of retirement for one or two reviews. We can't a PSA every month asking for help. It just isn't going to work.

A few days ago, when I finished my review of Mare of the Mountain, I found a group that says it has "the best of the best" reviewers. I figure we can both help each other. http://www.fimfiction.net/group/197153/writers-and-reviewers-institute-for-technical-excellence.

Of the current reviewers of /fic/ we have: Minty, Roger, Golden_Vision, Writers_Block, Tactical, and me. That's six people. We clearly have a problem. If you don't count my latest review, it has been two and a half weeks since someone reviewed a story for the training grounds.

I have contacted one of the admins of WRITE and he has shown interest in my idea, since WRITE is a combination of two old reviewing groups as well. I have asked him if he would join us for a chat in the IRC. He said we could talk after Bronycon ends.

The way I see it, we could help each other out. They'd be getting the flow of rejected authors from EqD, and we'd get help lightening the load off TTG and a bunch of new faces for the IRC channel.
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B_P 7005

>>7004
> Well, why not? If someone, for example, goes around flaming authors in the same way that some TWE members did, they should be reprimanded regardless of if it's in a review or not.

…But what does that have to do with that particular rule? You are genuinely confusing me. You started off talking about that rule as though the wording implied it somehow gave every member free reign to go be an asshole when they're off the clock, when it doesn't touch on a reviewer's attitude at all. Like I said, and as it clearly states, that rule is just about solicitation—making sure a reviewer has permission to do a review in our name before actually doing it and possibly getting in trouble with someone (moderation/the author/WRITE itself, maybe). We have other rules that do touch on attitude; I don't understand the problem with this one.

> People with proper tact will know what is and isn't acceptable in an unsolicited review versus a solicited one.


WRITE, as a group, doesn't do unsolicited reviews, so what is and isn't acceptable in them is moot.

> To be more clear here, what I'm saying is that TWE had one big problem: that it had a good number of assholes in it. What followed from this problem is that unsolicited reviews became a problem. But without that first big problem, the second problem isn't a problem anymore. The whole "approved reviewer" thing already solves the first big problem, so you don't need to worry about the second one anymore.


I'm not even sure what you're arguing anymore. You accept that that our approval process weeds out jerks, but not that it weeds out people who are explicitly poor at reviewing? Because it's there to do both. And like I said before, the rules are there to keep people out of trouble. The group and its members aren't going to get in trouble for a review that isn't up to our usual standards. They will get in trouble if they start insulting authors, or if they give a review to someone who happens not to want it. What possible problem is there with making sure our members are fully aware of what will likely land them in hot water? What kind of group would willfully do otherwise?

> Of course not… Did I say that?


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7006

>>7005
> You are genuinely confusing me.

I'm trying to argue that your code of conduct could do with revision because the current one has some issues. (It's also absurdly verbose, but that's another thing.)

> WRITE, as a group, doesn't do unsolicited reviews, so what is and isn't acceptable in them is moot.


Is this another way of saying, "We don't care what happens in an unsolicited review because we've decided it isn't our problem anymore"? Because that's kind of the whole issue I have with this rule. Its only purpose is to absolve your group of responsibility.

> You accept that that our approval process weeds out jerks, but not that it weeds out people who are explicitly poor at reviewing?


I don't think I made any comment regarding that, given that I'd never even seen what the process consisted of (hence the request for more public disclosure, so I *could* make such a value judgement).

> When you say that mechanical ability is only useful for editing, you say that it isn't necessary for things like that.


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B_P 7008

>>7006
> I'm trying to argue that your code of conduct could do with revision because the current one has some issues.

Yes, but I'm just having a lot of trouble following your arguments, as you'll start off arguing one thing about one rule, then—it looks like, but I'm not entirely sure—shift to arguing about other ones, or all of them, without telling me. We've got, like, 3–5 separate arguments going here, and when you bleed them together, it's just a mess.

> Is this another way of saying, "We don't care what happens in an unsolicited review because we've decided it isn't our problem anymore"? Because that's kind of the whole issue I have with this rule. Its only purpose is to absolve your group of responsibility.


No, it's my way of saying "WRITE doesn't do unsolicited reviews, so why are we talking about them?" On FiMFic, members are very much seen as separate from their groups (generally because any person can be in almost any group, I'm assuming), so when a group is punished and/or banned, nothing actually tends to happen to its individual members. But groups only get punished and/or banned if its members are doing negative things and it looks to the mods (or sometimes just knighty, specifically) like the group is endorsing it. Giving a review to a person who didn't at all ask for it and doesn't want it is negative, so we make it clear that we don't endorse it.

> I don't think I made any comment regarding that, given that I'd never even seen what the process consisted of (hence the request for more public disclosure, so I *could* make such a value judgement).


You could look up there at GV's and Tactical's applications. Or hell, if anyone had ever just asked to see the application itself, we'd've shown it. Everyone's always asked to see someone's application, though, or the process in action. We wouldn't care at all if the application itself is made public, as a person taking it is encouraged to use any resources at their disposal—the entirety of the internet—anyway.

> I don't know how "Mechanical skills are only necessary for editing" translates into "There is something wrong with explaining how to fix consistently found mechanical errors within a review."


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Worldsingers Rebooted 6516[View]

#Collaboration

Old Thread: >>>/rp/447178

Our Base of Operations: http://worldsingers.wikia.com/wiki/Worldsingers_Wiki

Welcome to WorldCorp, your one-stop shopping destination for realms, planets, and planes. Please fasten your seatbelt and keep you limbs within a reasonable radius of your keyboard at all times.

Worldsingers is a collaborative effort to create a world licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike license (CC BY-SA 3.0), which you can find here: (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/), with attributions made to “Worldsingers.” While it is the intention to make a world which has a Friendship is Magic feel, there’s no guarantee of the finished product sharing much of anything with FiM.

Comrade 25 has presented several excellent points regarding the structuring of this project, and I’ll let him make those points in full himself, but as a tl;dr:

”What are we trying to do here?” and “How are we going to do it?”


My greatest mistake was trying to impose an arbitrary structure for the world’s creation, without participant input and without first considering the logistical issues associated with this project. We are going to be doing things far more organically now, with the structure and impetus of the project being determined by the participants. The premise hasn’t changed, but our approach has.
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Tactical 6932

No time for a proper post. Two quick points.

One. Yes, I am willing to be shoehorned and limited. I forbid myself from writing dark elements in silly humorous clop things; I will abandon my pet ideas to put myself behind an idea that isn't mine.

your arguments here are a lot of false analogies, or false dichotomies, I think you have some of both.

Two, your comparison to "the entire fucking DC universe" or "Superman's entire continuity from Smallville to Superman Prime" is very apt. It also goes to further show that you and I are speaking different languages.

To return to "a car with a kitchen sink in it is just a mess," you're saying let's label Worldsingers as a whole fleet of cars. I say I will sacrifice my ideas and devote my work to one car whether it's exactly what I wanted or not.

My whole argument all along has been encouraging others to take on that mindset.

And my galactic community paradigm is a good compromise anyway :p

Writer's Block!hS9ZjLM/uE 6973

Tactical, I had a revelation the other day: we are debating a point that, in all honesty, is not yet relevant, and now we are both of us looking like fools.

Here is the essential question being asked by what we’re voting on: “Do we want multiple worlds?” I think you and I can both agree, “Yes.” Or, at the very least, “We can work with that.”

What we’re doing now is nit-picking on the extent of what would be done with it, when we have nothing to even work with. We have no worlds to bring into any level of actual conflict, other than the ones you submitted for the express purpose of fulfilling my request that it be attempted so I could try and fit them together.

You are correct that the doc I made up there is a tremendous fustercluck, and I will also add that our discussion was as well, for which I apologize. I tried something I never should have: I spilled a little passion into them both, to emphasize that I do believe that my idea is a good one, but I instead clouded an already muddied issue. I just wasted time with extraneous details and unnecessary metaphor, and confuddled not only myself but you as well.

My wish for “artistic freedom” is not, though my poor word choice may have lead you to believe otherwise, an absolute free-bill to whoever comes along next. I meant more of an opportunity for greater freedom, as the rules of my system are far more flexible than our previous one. Everyone had ideas for magic or tech or races or cultures and was constantly bickering that they had one that no one else was willing to give a chance, so I decided to take those out of the equation for at least this moment in time. I tried to make a system that meant we could experiment more freely with ideas, while still having a reason to try and bring them together beneath one roof.

As you said, there will be some degree of enforcement necessary to keep submissions from being just garbled messes. My hope is that, with such a flexible system in place, we’d have to do just a little less head-bashing on creators. Whole worlds are a lot better and, dare I say, easier for a unique creation from several authors than just one world with several countries. I think we can also agree on this.

What I took exception to was what I saw as thinking on too small a scale, that being just one world or one small community and then not ever touching it again or ever trying to expand on it. I do n
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State of Affairs; a.k.a. “The Best Laid Plans” 7081

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I really want this project to work out. I believed that it was something that could revitalize our board. But I’ve realized I don’t have the direction or the drive to see it through. I thought that raw potential was all that was necessary for this project to succeed. But it isn’t.

We need someone who can plan, and plan well. Someone who can develop scalable and extensible models, then delegate positions to those involved, seeing that things are accomplished, that milestones are reached, that everyone can make their bed and sleep in it.

With the original model, there was enough novelty to promote enthusiasm, but it was neither scalable nor extensible, and eventually collapsed under its own weight after the initial fervor died down.

With the second model, care was taken to ensure that the system the project was built over was simple, powerful, and flexible. But general laxness has hindered actually completing this infrastructure and building on it.

I’ve found myself inadequate to lead this project. My time for /fic/ly things has become sparse recently, and it will only dwindle in the coming days. I have my own vision for an amazing project, and I don’t necessarily want to do it alone, but I can’t afford to organize a new collaborative effort.

Maybe someday I’ll have something to show for it. I hope I do.

This is goodbye for now.

See you soon.


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BronyCAN Mock Fanfic Panel Practice Livestream Soundslikeponies!bQsJPGMNfw 7066[View]

#Livestream#Fanfic Panel
Hold onto your sweet apple-buckin’ keester, because this Thursday is the mock fanfiction panel practice for BronyCAN!

> “Mock fanfiction panel? Is Pen Stroke going to be there?”

Hah-hah! Of course not! And please stop asking that question! Attending will be myself, of shipfic fame; Horse Voice, of pony vault fame; and Gary Oak, of [explicit] fame! We’ll be on livestream, tossing around our experiences and views on writing. Learn industry secrets, 12 ways to improve your storytelling, and 5 simple writing tricks top fandom authors don’t want you to know about!

> “Listen, that’s all good and everything, but I’m a busy guy; what time is it at?”

We haven’t decided! Which is good news because it’s still up in the air so we can find the time slot that best accommodates you*! That said, the mock panel will most likely take place sometime in the afternoon, either after lunch or after people are off work.
*you refers to the lowest common denominator of those viewing this. If you are not among that denomination, you are excluded.

> “So what’re you gonna talk about?”

We currently have a list of topics including several aspects of storytelling, mechanics/editing, and mindset—but overall those are the big three we’ll be talking about as we branch off into subtopics off them. Most likely one of us will start on a topic, and then the others will add on to their point or maybe even disagree with it and provide another view. From our preliminary discussions, it seems like the three of us are three very different kinds of authors, so there should be some (healthy) diversity in the views presented.

> “Will I have a chance to ask questions or comment during the panel?”

Of course! All of us will be watching the livestream chat while the panel goes on and will jump in on any good questions or comments made by viewers. We also highly encourage you to give feedback on our performance, in fact, according to the contract I forged your signature onto, it’s mandatory!
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The livestream will be on justin.tv, panelists will be watching the chat for comments!

Link to come closer to air time, and will be posted in the /fic/ irc and in this thread. Still fiddling with the stream setup right now!

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http://www.justin.tv/soundslikeponiesls#/w/6581824848

Fanfic panel is live! There'll be a recording up later if you miss any of it!

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VoD for those of you who missed it!
Well, that went pretty well. Need to spend our time more efficiently, but that was expected.

http://www.justin.tv/soundslikeponiesls/b/449758283

Introductions start at 3:10, and if you want to just skip right to the content, that starts at 6:21. Here's the outline of what the stream covered:

* Personal intros/credentials
* Your mindset (fanfic writing vs. "real writing, brutal honesty)
* Creating an appealing story
* Outlining (notebooks, research, structure, shape, ending)
* Setting
* Characterization
* Pacing
* Cliches and tropes
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Vimbert the Review Mercenary 6541[View]

#Reviewer
Hello there, fanficcers! This is a review thread, but think of it more like an advertisement plastered to a billboard than a local shop.

Let me get straight to the point and say that I do review commissions: private reviews for authors who want an experienced eye looking over their fanfics. My reviews are based on initial reader response—I keep a microphone open and running as I read, and I’ll frequently muse aloud. This allows you to hear my reactions in real time, and since I edit out the silences, it’s all in one compact package filled with my sexy voice.

Who is this guy who wants money for reviews, you might ask? I’ve been reviewing in the fandom for almost two years now, and in that time I’ve looked over some big-name stories, including Past Sins, Ponies Make War/The Immortal Game, The End of Ponies, Composure, Pony Age: Origins, and many more over six review threads on Ponychan’s /fic/ board. (Sadly, only one has not 404’ed by this time.) http://www.ponychan.net/chan/fic/res/76172.html

I’ve also been an EqD pre-reader for over a year, and I’ve read staggering amounts of fanfic (over 1200 verdicts given, including pre-screenings) in that position. I also have a BA with a minor in Creative Writing. In short, I’m someone with some name recognition who will pick apart every bit of grammar and story you’ve got to throw at me. If you’d like to see my writing, visit my Fimfiction page here: http://www.fimfiction.net/user/Vimbert%20the%20Unimpressive

My rates are as follows:
For a standard review, $2 per every 1,000 words of story read. I’ll review everything from the most innocent slice-of-life to the darkest rape clop. (I don’t post my reviews publicly or take stories for review through public posting, so mods, I don’t believe I’m breaking your rules by saying this.)

For a more brief review, a mere dollar, regardless of story length, will get your story a quick skim by me. These reviews do not go in-depth, but instead give bullet point listings of issues likely to be brought up were it submitted to EqD and a prediction about what verdict the pre-readers will hand back. This all
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Tactical 6620

>>6612

Bro, I MISSED you. Come hang with the cool ponies in the dark recesses of the comment sections of stuff with fucked up content.

Anonymous 7071

Wow. So much hate in here.

The question is, does Vimbert have something to offer that the "free" reviewers don't? If not, then the argument that it's not worth the money is valid.

If you don't want to pay, then don't pay, but I see no reason to resort to petty insults and derogatory comments.

7073

>>7071
Exactly. If people don't value a competent review at $2 / 1k words, it's not like this thread is forcing them to buy anything. They're still free to take the crapshoot of quality available in TTG.


Appejack Pony 7059[View]

Could someone wright a fic with applejack sneezing?


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Golden Vision Reviews — Summer Edition 5634[View]

Hi there! For those of you who don’t know me, I’m Golden Vision. I like ponies, time travel, long walks on the beach, and tearing apart the heart and soul of any aspiring author who thinks they can write fanfiction.

Oh, don’t worry. You can come closer. I won’t bite. Much.

So, this is a review thread. In it, I shall glomp, wub, and boop your stories until they fall apart of internal bleeding. The times shall be hard, you and your ego will suffer, but I can promise that you’ll be a better author for it. Golden Vision Reviews™ does not actually make any legal claim to this effect, and is not responsible for the failings of n00b authors who do not know an em-dash from a proper noun.

This is a bit different from some other review threads, however. The preferred submission type is Google Docs; however, I will refrain from commenting on your fic Unless I really like you, or think that your fic so good that only a few minor corrections are needed. Instead, this thread will have a format more similar to that of a prereading one. For each story that I read, I will return a laundry list of problems that I found, as specific as I can make them, accompanied by at least one example for each (if at all possible) to give the author some perspective on what the problem is and how to fix it. Should anyone require a followup meeting with me to go over how, exactly, they can fix the listed problems (assuming that they’re unable to understand the resources I’ve provided them), I’ll be happy to take an hour or two to help you understand how to improve that part of your writing.

Just some quick rules. First, be reasonable and polite. Don’t flame me or anyone else in this thread, and don’t submit anything that’s just plain ridiculous (I usually start to back away around 10k words, or one chapter; by that point, I probably have a pretty good idea already of what your problems are). You are indeed welcome to resubmit, but if I see none of those problems fixed, that fic will be blacklisted and ignored until you can prove to me that you’ve done your utmost to address those issues.

Secondly, as I would suspect would be obvious, no clop or gore. Do your best to stay within MLPChan's standards; you should all know the rules by now. Thirdly, you are required to submit your fic both in this thread and in my reviewing queue, which I have linked below. Fourthly, if you have an up
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Sparklez 7020

>>7017
Yes I do, if you feel you're up to the task.

7023

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>>7020
Sure. It's been a while since I've done any sort of big-scale report.

So, by the way you've laid things out, you have three types of villains. Each has their own personality, methods, and goals, which make them unique in how they appeal to the audience.

1.) The Insufferable Cunt of a Villain: Let's start simple. The ISCV (as I have now abbreviated) is the Character You Love To Hate. They're the Dolores Umbridge, the Prince Joffrey of literature. In MLP terms, this villain might be equated to Diamond Tiara—she's fucking annoying, has no redeeming qualities, and exists only to Make Life Terrible.

Now, this doesn't mean that this is a bad villain. Blueblood, for example, in most fanfictions, is wonderfully portrayed as the kind of fucked-up, self-centered bastard that you would gladly send into next week, and quite often, that's a character who needs to exist. Fiction reflects reality, after all, and we've all met at least one insufferable cuntnugget like that. What makes these villains special, then, is their lack of perspective or empathy. They think in the short-term, and think of nobody but themselves. Their goals tend to link back to this, with each “evil plot” only coming back to give them a sense of immediate satisfaction, often with limited effect. Blueblood doesn’t care if his machinations cause Equestria to fall so long as he makes Rarity lose her job out of a sense of egotistic revenge. Joffrey plays dice with the security of the Realm, but as long as he gets to chop off someone’s head and brag about it to Mother, he doesn’t care.

The reason that you, the reader, can’t bring yourself to like these characters is because they exist not for you, but for themselves. They’re cancers in the story, and you grind your teeth with every word that comes out of their self-righteous mouths. That means that the author’s doing their job—I’m sure J.K. Rowling is extremely proud of her Ministry villains.


2.) The Endgamer: This is a villain with a plan. You may know your motivations or you may not, but they have a reason behind everything they do. They’re willing to give up a little to gain a lot later on. The Joker knows this—he wants to prove the fallibility of humanity, and he’s okay with losing out on some cash or manpower
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>>7023
Hopping in here.
The way to write an insufferable cunt is to simply create someone incredibly self-righteous and wrong. Moreover, making a villain get away with horrible things is one of the greatest ways to give a villain weight. A villain who just fails at everything they do is pathetic. A villain who pins the hero underfoot and cuts off his arm is a real menace.

This is by far the simplest way to make a villain have weight: have them actually succeed. Saturday morning cartoon villains usually show up with some big bad plan, but then the good guys defeat them and nothing changes. Having the villain do something very real (something very real that affects the protag) gives that villain more weight. The reason insufferable cunts are what they are is because they get away with doing things time and time again, and are usually protected by some bullshit that is beyond the protag's control (ie, Joffrey is (son of the) king of the realm, you can't touch him. Umbridge is a teacher and her authority superceeds even Dumbledore's.) Spoiled. Self-righteous. Arrogant. There's a wide variety of things you can choose from to make them despising. Just look for shit people really hate. Bad bosses, celebrity assholes, any person in a position of power able and willing to abuse it who has horribly misguided notions.

I also would categorize the joker and discord as 'spontaneous/unpredictable villain' rather than endgamer. Spontaneous villain being a villain who flies by the seat of their pants and likes to lead the dance, as it were.


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The Writer's Cafe - Story Idea General, Version 1.0.0 - FOREVER Edition 49[View]

#Discussion #General #Writer's Cafe

Hello and welcome to the Writer's Cafe, a place to exchange ideas between your fellow authors and to spark conversations that will better both your idea and you as an author.

Consider this a place to drop ideas that you won't write or feed upon ideas that make your own stories a little bit better.

Form if you want feedback on your idea: http://goo.gl/3rdNQ

The list of ideas: http://goo.gl/o4sCW
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>>6784
Giant crystal caves in Mexico.

6786

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>>6781
Sorry, but I'm trying to stick with the smaller aspects of the Crystal Empire. I worry that if I do something to big that it might get jossed. Thanks anyway. I might be able to do something with the caves though.


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College Application Essays Filler 7009[View]

#Writing Exercise

Hey, hey, everybody, it's time for another one of these! Because the last one, you know, turned out so well. (And I don't actually remember when that was.)

So it's about two-thirds into summer for some of us, and for others, summer might almost be over. (And for some of us, summer isn't for another four months or so.) That means school's starting! And that also means college applications are due some time between now and the next four months! So that makes this writing exercise super awesome and timely: Choose a common app prompt from below and write it from your own experiences, something you've made up, from the perspective of a pony trying to get into a pony university, etc. The new (so they changed it up this year, it seems) prompts are:

- 1. Some students have a background or a story that is so central to their identity that they believe their application would be incomplete without it. If this sounds like you, then please share your story.

- 2. Recount an incident or time when you experienced failure. How did it affect you, and what did you learn.

- 3. Reflect on a time when you challenged a belief or idea. What prompted you to act? Would you make the same decision again?

- 4. Describe a place or environment where you are perfectly content. What do you do or experience there, and why is it meaningful to you?

- 5. Discuss an accomplishment or event, formal or informal, that marked your transition from childhood to adulthood within your culture, community, or family.

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7010

The picture made me think of the Equestria Girls characters applying to college. Kind of a fun fic idea?

Filler 7011

>>7010
They're supposed to be seniors in high school, so I'd've assumed that they've already applied to colleges… at the time of EQG, anyways. The writing exercise was just the application, but if you can turn the entire thing into a fic, you should go for it!
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7012

>>7011
Well I just mean it's interesting to think about the Equestria Girls applying to college. Maybe I'll write an essay from one of their points of view.


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