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Season 4 Episode 4 Streaming/Discussion Thread The Person Who Posts As Fluttershy (Element of Self-descriptive Usernames) 27187

This week we have Daring Don't written by Dave Polsky The synopsis is:
Rainbow Dash and her friends anticipate the release of the newest "Daring Do" book, but when the publication is unexpectedly delayed, the friends decide to get in touch with the series' author, who is in need of some special assistance.

Airing, streaming information and YouTube links
The episode will air Saturday at 10:30AM Eastern 7:30AM Pacific
stream and chat is available at http://www.bronystate.net/theater/applejack/

YouTube links will be added when available.

Starting topics
>Adventure! (again!)
>Rainbow Dash and her friends. Take that Twilight!
>What sort of "special assistance" does the author need?

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Heavy Mole 27188

lol, fucking creeps

"…but when the publication is unexpectedly delayed, the friends decide to 'get in touch' with the author by calling her husband at work and through Twitter harassment."

Anonymous 27189

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Her writing is just really pent-up and she needs a heaping dose of adventure to get the ink flowing.


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Scootapuff!saU4Tsd4dU 27191

Can't say I'm excited for this one honestly. The little preview clip plays pretty much into exactly what I am expecting from this episode too, so double meh.

I guess we'll see though.


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Heavy Mole 27193

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"Dude, I don't even care about that fucking box anymore. Believe me I've tried. I just can't wait for the new Daring Do novel to come out!"

Anonymous 27194

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THE SECRET IS THAT "A. K. Yearling" is a pen name for THE REAL DARING DO
She can't very well release a book without a happy ending, so it's delayed until she can succeed in some fashion that makes a satisfying conclusion.


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Agiri 27196

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The dash faces are too much.

anon_matt 27197

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Shipping intensifies

Hulkbow!SMASH/3FWA 27198

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So much pic related. I can't imagine where the inspiration came from.

The Nost♥lgia!fgXCRITIC. 27199

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Am I the only one that disliked this episode?
Maybe it's just because I don't like dash, but I really didn't like it. That being said that doesn't mean it was a bad episode. The animation was good like always, and the visuals were good like always, some jokes better then others.

>Dash's eyes being derped on the Daring Do book.

It's a sign


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>Am I the only one that

>pic related~

…but seriously, the overall reaction has been mixed. Some like it, some do not. Standard reaction to Polsky episodes.

The Person Who Posts As Fluttershy (Element of Self-descriptive Usernames) 27201

Derpy is dash from the future, after she breaks the light barrier and leaves her color behind.

The Nost♥lgia!fgXCRITIC. 27202

Glad I'm not the only one that disliked it. So far everyone I talked to liked it, and I was wondering if I was just being a cunt.
Mah headcannon

Hulkbow!SMASH/3FWA 27203

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I enjoyed it. On the whole it was a fun story, and I know I'm not the only one who wanted to see Ms Do again. Plus it wasn't all about Her Royal Highness, though not for lack of her trying.

Character handling wasn't the best, so I can see how it could disappoint some viewers. Dashie's behavior fit her personality in a general sense, it just needed some fine tuning to be better in-character. And Do's turnaround was rather rushed, though I can forgive that since there was a fair bit of show packed into 20 minutes. More annoyingly, Dear Leader Twilight continues to be an attention whore while the remaining sidekicks are basically her chorus. Most of them could've stayed home with…wait, where was Spike anyway?

Most of what I could say against it offhand feels like nitpicking though.

Pic probably unrelated.

Heavy Mole 27204

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This one has my vote for zaniest MLP episode to date.

Rambling!Rose//pzOM 27205

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Well. This episode sure was… something. In a vacuum and when you only look at the surface it's a fun and actually kind of an exciting little adventure, albeit with some problems. In the context of the series as a whole and when more deeply focused on it's a world wrecking monster whose premise doesn't actually make sense and which relies on the characters doing things that don't seem to be in line with their previous characterizations. Despite this it had some good character moments and was quite enjoyable if you just ignored those glaring problems and went with it.

The first part will be just retelling the episode with some commentary, so if you don't care for that feel free to skip that. I'll point out where the actual rambling and commentary starts.

We start the episode with Fluttershy teaching baby birds to fly. And we stop right here. Fluttershy. Teaching baby birds. To fly. This? I love this We see Fluttershy doing her "job", the things she loves to do and got her cutie mark for. And it feels so good seeing her do that. Anyways, the new Daring Do book is four months away and RD is clearly very excited. I'd like to say too excited, but she clearly did get into the books in Read It and Weep and we all probably know how fanboys and fangirls can be, right? And then she crashes and the baby birds fly over her head, which was a really nice touch. Flutters commenting to nopony in particular is a bit weird, but the comment is good and justified. My Little Pony, My Little Pony~

A random, clearly made up party, the fact which Rarity lampshades quite nicely. Nice to see the ponies having a fun little party just by themselves. Friends doing things together is always a big plus in my book. We are told that yes, Dash is indeed a huge fan of the series and pours a lot of time into it. Sadly the next book has been delayed a few months and she isn't sure she can wait that long. Fluttershy pops in out of screen and comments on that before moving back out the way she came while Pinkie drops a party hat on Dash. Fluttershy's comment here was very reminiscent of her "I'm a year older than you" line in Griffon the Brush-Off. She has her own mind and she speaks it. I just really like seeing this Fluttershy I love again. Dash somehow manages to convince the rest of the Mane 6 to join her in finding out if A.K. Yearling needs any help and so they travel all across Equestria to her remote cottage while Twilight objects to them breaching on her privacy.

Only to find the house trashed. The author herself shows up, accuses the M6 of trashing her place but ends up just ignoring them and looks for a specific book which holds a golden ring. Rainbow tries to tell Yearling to get back to writing right away but Twi decides it's time to have a chat and tries to tell Dash off. Thugs enter the house and attack Yearling who to nobody's (but overypony's) shock turns out to be Daring Do herself. She tried to fight the thugs off while the Mane 6 just watch from outside through a window and fangasm about the action but she gets hurt and the ring flies by the door where it's picked up by the leader of this group.

Twi and Dash identify him while he tells Daring his plans before running off. At this point Fluttershy finally points out that they should probably go help Daring who is splinting her hurt leg. They go in and offer help but Daring tells them she works alone before flying off. Twilight and Rainbow Dash argue for a while about whether or not they should go after her to help while the other four watch from the sidelines. It's unclear whether they actually are fans of the book and just going "what the hay are those two talking about?" or actually following the conversation. After referencing some of the books Twilight admits that they probably should go and make a plan for it at which point Dash takes off.

She ends up finding Daring Do and has her fangasm moments and ends up slapping herself quite a few times to try and get a grip of the situation. She makes so much noise that Daring attacks her before realizing who it was and telling Dash again that Daring Do works alone. Dash still tags along all fangirly. With Daring's ingenious disguise she manages to fool the thugs into selling the ring to her instead of Ahuizotl but just as she is securing the deal Ahuizotl shows up, the thugs run off and Ahuizotl and Daring end up fighting over the ring after a nice, cheesy line from her. Well, Ahuizotl's cats end up fighting Daring over it. It's going fine, until Rainbow Dash makes her presence known, gets caught by Ahuizotl which distracts Daring enough to get caught herself. She makes a final comment on how Dash managed to help plenty already before being dragged away.

A broken Dash is found by her friends who try to convince her to go with them to help Daring, but Dash is really down for having failed her hero. Twi gives her a little speech about how Dash is downplaying her own skills by comparing herself to her hero and the others encourage her, too, by saying that certainly isn't like the awesome Rainbow Dash to be so down and hard on herself.

Meanwhile Daring Do is left in a Bond-esque trap which she manages to escape in the last second with help from Rainbow Dash. She tries to refuse help again but Dash is having none of it and they are off. The other five find Ahuizotl and his pony helpers trying to complete the ritual and grab the final ring before it can be completed. Chaos ensues and it's frankly miraculous how none of the ponies get speared. While this impromptu game of keep away is going on Dash and Daring work together to remove all the previous rings, collapsing the temple. Just when Ahuizotl finally gets the ring in his hands the largest, bottom ring is removed and the temple starts collapsing.

Ahuizotl pops out of the rubble and swears revenge on Daring Do, Dash gives Daring a hug which she accepts, after which she flies off saying there's a book to write. Dash writes about her experiences in the journal we were introduced to in the previous episode. We get a good look at the inside of Dashie's home when she goes to answer the door. Turns out it was a package from one A. K. Yearling, which held the next book in the Daring Do series. Rainbow Dash is right there in the front cover with Daring Do and we fade away.

Rambling!Rose//pzOM 27206

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This part is just for the general rambling and opinions, so if you don't care for a retelling of the episode, this is for you.
Okay. I mentioned there are some glaring, world wrecking problems in this episode, so let's start with those. Ahuizotl's plan of unleashing 800 years of sweltering, unrelenting heat clearly were about having some sort of control over the sun and having it burn this one place for eight centuries. Well, the problem here is that we have a princess who is in control of the sun and very likely would have a say in this matter. Even if Ahuizotl managed to take control of the sun or freeze it in place I very much doubt it would have stayed there for eight centuries or that Ahuizotl would have been free to do whatever he was planning to do for a good long while.

Which leads me to my second point, Ahuizotl, Daring Do and the books being real. How is it that Ahuizotl, who clearly wants destruction and misery, at least in this case, is out there doing these things with seemingly only Daring Do fighting him? If he is such a menace then I would imagine there would be ponies who know he is real and he wouldn't be just a villain of some stories. Same with Daring Do, there would have to be stories circulating about her exploits. And then there are the books. Unless Ahuizotl and other assorted enemies of Daring aren't illiterate they should know that somepony is writing about them, somepony who knows way too much to be some random pony. They could add two and two together and it would add up to Daring Yearling. Now, Twilight knew where she was born and all kinds of things from her past, and even managed to find out where she lives. Assuming all the information about her past wasn't faked (which it could have been but the location of the house being real mixes it up a bit) the bad guys could go and threaten Daring's friends and/or family, or even just hunt her down and eliminate her when she's sleeping.

To me it seems implausible that these things haven't happened yet. Yes, Daring's house was trashed which tells me the bad guys did know where she lives. …how is Daring Do still alive? I could come up with a dozen ways to kill a pony in her sleep or trap her house when she's out. Ahuizotl doesn't seem to be against killing her, after all… And again, how are there not more ponies fighting against Ahuizotl? These things really don't add up, and the plan of having sun scorch things up does not work in a world where the sun is controlled by somepony.

But those weren't the only problems the episode had. The rest of the Mane 6 agreeing to go with Dashie's plan really baffles me, especially since it hasn't been shown they are really fans of the books themselves. Rarity especially makes me wonder, since I would have thought she'd side with Twilight, as would Fluttershy. The next such scene is when they simply sit outside and watch how Daring Do is getting beaten up without even considering helping her. Maybe they were shocked that Daring Do was indeed real, but I doubt Dash would really just have sat there and done nothing when her hero was being attacked. Same with Twilight. It ended up being Fluttershy who told them they should go help her.

Speaking of Fluttershy… Thank you, based Polsky. Fluttershy wasn't a shivering, panicking mess who was afraid of everything. She was a reasonable mare who could throw a little quip or remind the others that hey, we probably shouldn't just sit here and watch. I mentioned above that her "I can vouch for that" reminded me of her "I'm a year older than you" line from GtBO, which is also one of my favourite Fluttershy lines. This Fluttershy, in this episode? I love her. Again, thank you, Polsky.

Pinkie was really good, too, I found. At least when compared to some of the horrible treatment she's had earlier. Random? Yes, of course, but not too too much. Twilight was Twilight, her talking about the perils of hero worship to Dash was a bit weird, maybe, considering how much she looks up to Celestia. However, she is the one pony with the most experience with the problems that could cause, and I personally found she could speak from experience. Maybe somepony pointing out her own problems with it could have been nice, but I don't think it was really a problem.

Rarity and Applejack weren't really focused on that much in this episode, but I did like them. Rarity mentioning she hadn't heard of this "holiday" either and just moving on to mention how good the punch was was quite delightful. It was also a nice reminder that they have been friends with Pinkie for a while now and do expect these kinds of things from her without making a big deal out of it. It's a little thing, but little things and these details are some of the things I like the most.

Then there's Dash herself. I'm not the biggest Dash expert or fan as some of you probably know. Her motivations at the start of the episode for tracking down A. K. Yearling really were rather questionable, but she ended up being just fine. I liked her slapping herself in the forest and fangasming over Daring Do, even if it started to get a bit old and she was being stupid at some points with that. She honestly just wanted to help Daring after finding out the truth but with how in awe she was she just got too distracted. This Dash? This Dash I can like, and understand.

Now, for the rest of the ponies somehow being convinced that harassing the author is a good plan… It is odd, it really is. However, and this is headcanon stolen from some fics, Rainbow Dash is the Bearer of the Element of Loyalty. It's her stated virtue. She has shown she can inspire other ponies to do things with and for her (Hurricane Fluttershy really comes to mind) with just the strength of her personality. She inspires loyalty in other ponies, and I believe this is what made the others go with her plan. Now, obviously it's not canonized in any way, so I can't dismiss that flaw in the episode, but it makes it feel better for me.

So, with all that said I did enjoy the episode overall. It had some smaller, and some bigger issues, but if you just sit back and enjoy the show it is an enjoyable and nice episode. Admittedly I'm quite the Flutterfag so her being so lovable made this episode feel better for me, as did the little friendship things in the episode overall. It is unforgivable that the writers or nobody else caught that problem with the sun and Celestia but the episodes not quite working or having some issues seems to be more the rule than the exception these days. And Polsky shows that he indeed still knows the characters for the most part. Ranking this higher than Castlemane-ia, and for the sake of this ranking I'm ignoring the premiere two parter. We'll see how Scoots does next week.

Anonymous 27207

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Very glad to see Daring Do really exists. The premise of the action hero archaeologist who writes books drawn from her own adventures is great.

Not enthused by the execution, though. Daring Do as portrayed in the books is a sharply unrealistic action hero; a parody of Indiana Jones exaggerated for comedy. I would much, much rather the story contrast Fictional Daring Do's campy heroics with a harsher reality. Real Daring Do can still be an action hero without breaking the setting; Rainbow Dash is one. Just, not the kind that squares off with a team of trained attack leopards and beats them up with her bare hooves. That's silly.

This episode is sorta like Mare Do Well flipped around. Still makes no goddamn sense and poops on coherent continuity, still gives Rainbow Dash a serious case of the derps, but this time it's good to be a hero and her friends are there to help, not hurt. Not to mention there are actual problems that warrant 'superhero' intervention, instead of just a visit from the safety inspector.

Heavy Mole 27208

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I found the whole Daring Do *literally* existing thing very bizarre. I was half-expecting RD to wake up from a dream at the end of the episode. It struck me as oddly meta, as well: if DD and her adventures are all completely real, though presented to be fictitious, what's to say the Pones don't know they're acting out a show of their own?

Rambling!Rose//pzOM 27209

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Kind of agreed on the second part, yeah.

As for Daring Do being real. The premise is great, but in this world it just doesn't work like it was done. Which you of course pointed out as well. Sad.

Yeah, her actually existing is really strange. Having it all be a dream could have been a cheesy way of doing it, but at least it wouldn't have been as bad for the canon world…

The meta thing… I'd doubt that. But hey, who knows? :P

Heavy Mole 27210

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Kinda makes me wonder… Do you think Daring Do has a literary-industrial complex?

Heavy Mole 27211

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"A.K. Yearling and Daring Do are one and the same–my mind is BLOWN!"

"Ah come on, I knew it all along. Although it does make all that sexual stuff she puts in her books kind of awkward."

Anonymous 27212

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Makes a lot of things awkward, really.

Hulkbow!SMASH/3FWA 27213

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There are two universes; the one ruled by Celestia and Luna, and another where Ahuizotl and company play. Daring/Yearling is the doorway between them. Or at least that's how I seemed to unconsciously handwave it away while watching. It even makes sense in a metaphorical way, authors being the gateways to their worlds and all. And Mole? Pinkie has known they're in a tv show all along!

Dashie fangasming is pretty much in-character. Remember how much of a dork she was for the Wonderbolts before finally getting into the academy? Something had to take their place. To pick a bit, I would've preferred to see her at least maintain her cool for a few seconds before spaghettiing all over Daring, but whatever. Unfortunately, the upload I watched was missing a few minutes of the beginning, so I didn't get to see the reManeing 4 being anything but pretty much pointless throughout.

I could complain that the adventure was blatantly derivative, but Daring was set up to be an Indiana spoof from the start, so it was kind of inevitable. It didn't really detract from the fun for me, anyway.

How long before we get the Daring Do limited edition brushable? SDCC, or just an exclusive at one of the stores? Though I doubt we'll see Ahuizotl as anything more than a blind-bag size toy in one of those triple packs.

Awesome eel 27214

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Why in the world would RB be a fan girl of a lesser hero than herself, Daring Doo must have been completely disconnected from the world for not hearing the legendary heroes of the mane 6 who: returned the sister of the night, defeated the god of chaos and defeated sombra who was a dictator with hatred as his essence and rebuilbed the glory of the crystal empire. RB can shatter the light spectrum and no other pony in history has ever managed to do that and she did it twice forging a cosmic friendship bound with the rest !

Anonymous 27215

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Did she ever write books about her exploits? I think not!

Hulkbow!SMASH/3FWA 27216

Don't be silly, those were all Princess Twilight's doing, everyone else was just riding her coattails. Well, except maybe the rainboom. We'll let her take credit for that one.

Or possibly, my alternate universe theory takes care of that as well, with Yearling only hanging out in the Equestria universe to pound out new books and collect royalties. And speaking of which, the typewriter with only two big hoof-sized keys was an amusing touch.

Anonymous 27217

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>writing books in morse code

Hulkbow!SMASH/3FWA 27218

Pff. It's obviously a chording keyboard.

And someone posted an image with it right when I was writing about it. What're the odds?

Sersys!CyQeb5KTDM 27219

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I've finally watched the new episode.

It felt like eating a shit sandwich without bread.
It has more plot holes and contradictions then the bible. My favourite is: Daring Do works alone and doesn't want to work with Rainbow Dash because her work includes a lot of secrets - yet she writes where she got or hid everything down by the letter in her books for everyone to read including how to fucking activate a god damned temple to doom an entire region.
After the firs two episodes, which were quite decent, and the second, that was meh, this episode is a crap cake with pseudo lesbian action frosting.
Reasoning by saying that this is a children's show and doesn't have to make sense is an insult to every non-autistic child above 4.

Sersys!CyQeb5KTDM 27220

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There were a lot of hilarious facial expressions which I've enjoyed but that only makes up for degrading pinkie to a drag-along for fun's sake.

Anonymous 27221

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>autism making people worse at parsing details for contradictions

Anonymous 27222

If you had paid attention you'd know she was trying to get into the temple

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