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Season 4 Premire Stream and Discussion Thread The Person Who Posts As Fluttershy (Element of Self-descriptive Usernames) 26390

PonyCountdown.com

It's that time again (finally). This season starts off with Princess Twilight Sparkle by Meghan McCarthy The synopsis is:
Now a Princess, Twilight Sparkle's Summer Sun Celebration plans are put on hold when Princesses Luna and Celestia go missing. In order to save Equestria from the Everfree Forest, Princess Twilight and friends must bring their Elements to the Tree of Harmony.

Airing, streaming information and YouTube links
The episode will air Saturday (23rd) at 10:30AM Eastern 7:30AM Pacific

Stream and chat is available at Bronystate: Applejack Room

Link to the episodes: Part 1 and Part 2

Starting topics
>What are your predictions for season 4?
>Princess Twilight and friends
>Why is the Summer Sun Celebration in late November?


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#streaming#new episode

Rambling!Rose//pzOM 26391

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It's about time, for sure. Make or break and all that, but most importantly, more pony.

>what are your predictions for season 4?
Focus on Twilight. Some episodes that I won't like and some that I will. Some good songs. And cute ponies doing cute things!

>princess Twilight and friends

Yeah… It is what it is. I'll just leave it at that.

>why is the Summer Sun Celebration in late November?

This is a story all about how, the world got flipped, turned upside down. And I'd like to take a minute, just sit right there. I'll tell you how Twi became the princess of a town called Pone-ville.
You know, new princess, the Bearer of the Element of Magic put above her friends, the whole world unbalanced. Strange things happen, and we'll continue to see these things escalate as the season progresses. In the finale Twilight and friends realize that it's the fault of the new Princess causing such a disturbance in the world, and they are faced with a huge decision: sacrifice one for the good of all, or doom everyone for a single pony? Find out what happens on the next exciting episode of My Little Pooony!

…or it could be that Equestria officially is separate from our calendar and the seasons won't correspond to ours. You know, whichever you like best.

Kadence (on her phone) 26392

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The show wasn't canceled? Huh.

26393

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Here's an extended promo trailer for the episode:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lgp1erBA26w

Agiri 26394

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>>26393

That looks awesome!

I hope they introduce lots of new monsters!

Agiri 26395

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Also, I hope Twilight learns some cool new spells this season. Teleporting and levitation is cool, but she needs some more tricks.

Rambling!Rose//pzOM 26396

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>>26394
>pic
Dude, spoilers!

>>26395
>needs more tricks
>time travel
>apples to oranges (animals to fruit)
>dark magic
>love (?) magic
>reverse gravity
>transform object (sticks and stones to clothes)
>water walking
>shield spell
>summon door
>mustache spell
>Want it, Need it
>come to life
>reveal changeling
>lazorz
>find gems
>"sharingan"
And still probably some I'm forgetting. Are you watching the same show I am, man? She has plenty of "tricks" already, not just teleportation and telekinesis or levitation.

>>26393
Hmm, not like it gave us any new info. Well, other than the gator thing. Also Ponyville's newest princess? There was another one before? Who, Rarity? But I'm okay with just getting these small teasers, just whets the appetite~

Anonymous 26397

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>>26396

>shield spell


When did she use one of those?

And anyway, a lot of those were one-offs that we never saw again. They should at least show her using them more often.

Rambling!Rose//pzOM 26398

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>>26397
See pic. Was Ponyville Confidential.

I do agree that her using her abilities more often wouldn't be a bad thing. The problem is that they can't really do adventure episodes with her without her either forgetting about a spell or two or by stopping her from casting spells somehow. Or I guess having something her magic can't help with, but that might require some creativity. She's gotten really powerful, and that's likely not stopping.

But if her solving problems with those spells of hers wasn't her resolving the conflict, just another Tuesday, then that would be pretty cool. Just having her magic Spike or herself some clothes for a formal event or walking on water in a scene here or there would be pretty cool.

Agiri 26399

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>>26398

>The problem is that they can't really do adventure episodes with her without her either forgetting about a spell or two


They could limit her "stamina" like they did in Sonic Rainboom, where using a powerful spell drained her, so she can only use one or two powerful spells in a given amount of time.

That way, rather than making her OP, she has to use her magic wisely.

They could even have an episode where she uses her powers too early and ends up helpless, which would be interesting.

Anonymous 26400

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>>26397
>>26398
She also shield-bubbled against Discord.

>The problem is that they can't really do adventure episodes with her without her either forgetting about a spell or two or by stopping her from casting spells somehow.

Twilight's prone to freezing up or panic at critical dangerous moments. She's not like a Rainbow Dash or Applejack who snaps easily into the moment even when surprised. Twilight needs a plan.

Colshy!x04iLINER6 26401

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>mfw I'm off on Saturday so I can watch the premier and the drama

As for the topics

>what are your predictions for season 4?

Lots of pandering, some epic moments but overall stale and forgettable. I'm actually pondering if I should watch at all…

>princess Twilight and friends.

Pretty much this

>why is the Summer Sun Celebration in late November?

Because it's their world and their seasons don't have to be in sync with ours.

The Person Who Posts As Fluttershy (Element of Self-descriptive Usernames) 26402

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>>26401
>I'm actually pondering if I should watch at all…
you must!

Rambling!Rose//pzOM 26403

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>>26399
Maybe. However, not a lot of the spells she's shown so far have really seemed that draining. With new spells that would work nicely but with the spells she's already cast with no problem earlier, which is quite a few of those, it would just feel artificial. Her magical abilities have also grown throughout the show, considerably so, even. I doubt the flutterwings spell would be as draining for her anymore, but that's just me making things up.

So yeah, sure, but that would have to be thought about well so continuity would be maintained. Assuming that's a consideration for the writers, anyways.

>>26400
>bubble in RoH
Oh yeah, true. I guess I didn't think of that since that bubble at least seemed to have some properties given to it by the Elements (nullified the chaos on the ground when they landed), so it wasn't just Twi casting it.

Her needing a plan I can agree with. I guess she's kind of like a wizard in that she has a wide selection of spells but she almost needs to prepare them beforehand. …except when she doesn't, like that darkness thing. And I highly doubt she had prepared the lasers and the changeling reveling spell… Oh well, there goes that idea.

I guess panicking and freezing up can be a thing that happens, but that could get old really fast. I guess I'll have to see how they deal with it.

>>26401
Hey, the ride never ends and you can never leave. Of course you should watch, at least the beginning if only to see how far it goes.

>seasons don't have to be in sync with ours

I like mine better~

Anonymous 26404

>>26401
>Lots of pandering
what makes you think this? I didn't see any in s3.

Anonymous 26405

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>what are your predictions for S4
Pop-Culture References, lots of princess twilight, less focus on other characters, bad villain, maybe a possible love interest, bad ending.

>Princess Twilight and friends

Codex Astartes does not support this action.

>Sun Celebration in Late November

Magic.

Colshy!x04iLINER6 26406

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>>26402
>>26403

I'm going to give the chance just like I gave the show at first. The season opener doesn't look promising but I hope any subsequent episodes can put things back on track.

And yes this ride can end. Not abruptly but slowly and painfully

Anonymous 26407

>>26406
Isn't this the last season?

Scootapuff!saU4Tsd4dU 26408

>>26407
Nope. Supposedly the first production meeting for S5 are underway.

The Person Who Posts As Fluttershy (Element of Self-descriptive Usernames) 26409

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>>26408
"gentlemen I present this seasons twilight"
"It's perfect!"
"we'll sell so many toys"
*muffled sobbing from Lauren's cage*

Anonymous 26410

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>>26409
>muffled sobbing from Lauren's cage
Oh, no… This is to perfect.

Rambling!Rose//pzOM 26411

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>>26409
Oh Luna, have mercy!

>>26406
…fine, I guess it can end. But certainly not with a bang, but a whimper. And yeah, agreed.

Colshy!x04iLINER6 26412

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>>26407
>>26408

Hence why I said the ride will end slowly. The fandom will break up little by little and not in one bang. S4 is the determining factor; if is succeeds, we might have poni for a long time but if it flops, S5's the last season for sure.

>>26411

Sorry if I ruined the mood. Guess I'm too wary about this…Deep down, I do hope this season is so damn good people will talk about it for ages!!

Rambling!Rose//pzOM 26413

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>>26412
Nah, you aren't ruining anything, at least for me you aren't. I'm pretty wary about it as well. We'll just have to wait and see what happens. I'll ramble then…

Scootapuff!saU4Tsd4dU 26414

>>26412
>>26413
Oh yeah, I've been saying it for months. This is the turning point for pony, it either sinks or swims here.

Lavender!!llnUq8y2Ml 26415

I think we should get an actual MLP:FiM movie before it ends. Equestria Girls may as well have had nothing to do with the show, for how it's plot was just ripping off a tired old formula.

Rambling!Rose//pzOM 26416

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>>26415
Oh, for sure. An actual pony movie could be great, and is what I've wanted ever since (and actually even before) they said Equestria Girls was going to be about hoomans. The franchise is called My Little Pony and the first movie isn't even about ponies? Habsro, pls.

Anonymous 26417

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>>26416
The franchise is actually My Little Dougs. It's a miracle we managed to squeeze two-and-a-half equine seasons out of them.

Rambling!Rose//pzOM 26418

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>>26417
that. explains. everything.

Colshy!x04iLINER6 26419

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>>26415

I want this too. Seriously, either Hasbro wants to distance itself from us or they're just clueless on how to run the franchise….
At least they should make a theatrical movie to end the FiM generation.

Anonymous 26420

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IT'S ALMOST HERE.

Anonymous 26421

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It's happening!

Rambling!Rose//pzOM 26422

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>>26421
I- I can't control…

Anonymous 26423

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>>26422
IT"S
HAPPENING

Colshy!x04iLINER6 26424

Time to prepare ourselves for the moment
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ub0uSSjBds

MERCURY RETURNS 26425

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Has there been a high quality YouTube link yet? Is this the place to look for one?

Agiri 26426

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Are you ready for the art?

Anonymous 26427

Agiri 26428

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>>26427

Oh, there will be much, much moar

All in due time my friend.

Anonymous 26429

>>26428
I love you

Agiri 26430

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>Is that really how you all feel? That I don't belong here?

>It's for the best

Damn it mlp, I didn't ask for these feels

Anonymous 26431

>>26430
I got no feels from that because I was 99% sure of exactly what was going to happen ;_;
it was one of the only points in the episode when I anticipated something

Rambling!Rose//pzOM 26432

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Nine months. I cannot believe it has been that long. Nine months ago Princess Twilight was unleashed upon us. And now, finally we are able to see what is going to happen with the show we know and love.

This is going to be a bit different. JiiKoo had his style, and he has played his part, for now. Time for Rambling Rose to do hers. Also this is right after the first viewing, so I very likely am going to miss some things. Also, Rambling Rose is a meaningful name. Apologies for that.

We started with Twilight trying to fly. Emphasis on the word "trying". Turns out her flying flawlessly in Magical Mystery Cure wasn't exactly something that stuck. The whole thing maybe took a bit long, but it was nice. Applejack calling her Princess doesn't sit well with me, but seems like Twi doesn't much like it, either. Rarity being herself and telling Twilight to embrace her new status doesn't really surprise me. This is Rarity, after all, and Twi is almost living her dream. The new stained glass is pretty, but I'm still not quite happy with the whole MMC thing. Oh well.

Her friends going to Ponyville while Twilight stayed in Canterlot was something I expected. After all, she does have some duties, especially before the Summer Sun Celebration. Her missing her friends is something I liked. It is just natural, of course, and inevitable since they had their own parts to play organizing their own little celebration~ Speaking of which, Celestia's speech about it makes it seem that this is the first Summer Sun Celebration after Luna's return. That has been a damn busy year the girls have had… I'm getting ahead of myself. So, here comes Celestia, sharing how she is happy to finally be able to celebrate the SSC herself, for all these long years it had only been a cruel reminder of what was taken from her. This? I *love* this. Take that, "Celestia threw little Woona in the moon because of a tantrum" people! It hurt her like hell, but she continued to play her part for all those years. Spelling this out alone gives Celestia some depth she lacked in the show so far, at least in my opinion. It was always my belief that she felt this way, but it's good to see it in the show.

Celestia calling Twilight princess all the time seems excessive. She seems to be teasing her or at least I hope she is. It is going to get old really fast, especially since they are both princesses now. The guards and random ponies in Canterlot I do understand, of course. She *is* a princess now so of course the ponies will call her that. And trust in her judgment and ability to guide them, as happened a little bit later on. I'll return to this later on. Going back a bit, though, I'm not certain what Celestia was doing when she spoke to Twi about having her friends leave. She seemed to console her, but also seemed to just dump a lot of responsibilities on her right away, and telling her to basically just deal with it. Not entirely unreasonable, though. She did rule alone for a long time and having another princess to help share the load must have been a great feeling. And then Celestia got tentacled.

Sun and the moon on the sky at the same time, oh my! Whatever could this mean? Princess Twilight will know! Princess, Princess, what do we do?! Yeah. I'm not a fan of Twilight becoming a princess in the first place, but all this? It really shows how reliant on the princesses the common pony actually is, or at least feels she is. Generations come and go, but the Princess (now princesses) is forever. It's just a little thing, but the little things are often the best things. Well, knowing Twilight she obviously has no idea what's going on, but ends up figuring something out. And soon we go up, up and away! I do wonder why she didn't take a chariot, though. I mean, sure, she can fly herself, but that could have made some sense.

And in Ponyville there is chaos. The whole root thing is kinda nice, Everfree literally expanding and devouring the little town. Everypony reacting to the situation felt a bit drawn out, but it's fine. RD's part I liked, mostly for her talking to the clouds and making it feel like they end up having to push Everfree's rogue clouds back every now and again. Which they obviously do, but it's again one of those little things I just like being spelled out. Rarity's magic goes haywire and goes out of control. It's curious how she had to "manually" turn her horn off to stop casting instead of being able to just, you know, stop. It is also interesting Sweetie had some issues with her horn even though she hasn't shown herself to be capable of casting any magic yet. It is interesting how the roots actually affected unicorns magics at all, and it causing such chaos sort of hinted towards what might have been going on. At least I had a hunch.

The rest of the Mane 6 looking through Twi's books was a nice thing, considering the books had kinda held the key to solving a few of their previous disasters. The girls took Celestia and Luna's disappearance surprisingly well, too. And obviously they blame Discord right away. Come now, who else could it be? Summoning spell using the Elements, huh? That is kinda interesting. And Discord is being a jerk. I was actually a bit surprised how much of a pain he was being here for supposedly being reformed, and I'm really thankful for that. Him singing Winter Wrap Up was nice~

I was expecting Discord to be a bigger help, but he turned out to just be a big old waste of time. Good thing Zecora just happened to get out of the Everfree and happened to have this special potion that only alicorn magic can acticate. I do wonder how often such a potion ends up being useful to a zebra. Is this what Luna has been doing in her spare time? Drink that turns clear (white) when alicorns use magic on it… Makes the drinker see things that aren't there… Luna… Is, is this moonshine Zecora's been bottling in there? Okay, that was a bad one, but I wanted to make it. Just seems weird how she just happens to know this recipe. But let's roll with it.

Rambling!Rose//pzOM 26433

>>26432
And oh no, my subjects don't like my nights and don't wanna be my subjects anymore! Better make it night forever, muahahahaaaaa! Wait, that's not what happened? The whole transformation sequence raises many, many questions about what really happened there, and I need to rewatch it in high quality before I can say very much about it. I'm not certain if it was implied that some external power indeed came over Luna after she'd blocked out the sun or if it was just her showing off. Looked good, though. The tree in the wall shattered, too. Was a nice little hint at what had happened and when, harmony being shattered and all that. The whole flashback scene was great, it was amazing to finally see what happened on that faithful day a thousand years ago. Reluctantly used the Elements of Harmony, indeed. It is also interesting how Nightmare Moon apparently banished Celestia into the sun in Friendship is Magic but when she herself was banished she was in full-on "EXTERMINATE" mode. Little thing, of course. Maybe wanting to make Celestia taste her own medicine or something, or maybe I'm just misreading what happened in the pilot.

And Discord is still being a dick, surprise surprise. Moving photos, not unlike those in Harry Potter, eh? I can live with that. Time to get drunk again! …and this time it's Discord turning to stone. Another scene that people, including me, have wanted to see for a while now. And again he seemed to underestimate the Elements. And then, the Tree of Harmony! Wait, the whatnow? Well, now we know where the Elements came from. …but where did the Tree come from? I suppose we'll have to find out in the future!

And so our brave heroines go back to the Everfree, just like old times! But this time we do it together! But wait, Twilight almost gets eaten by this new rock crocodile and everypony else tells the new princess that she's too valuable, Equestria couldn't handle losing her. There is valid logic here, of course, and the ponies pointed the big points out. We saw earlier how important the Princesses are to the common pony, and them potentially losing three within one day? Out of the question. So the others telling Twi she is too important to risk herself is honestly a reasonable thing to say. Twi actually accepting it, though… Well, Celestia did emphasize how much she appreciates her taking on her new responsibilities and being there when Celestia needs her. This definitely could count as a time Celestia needs her. And Twi ended up choosing her duties as a Princess of Equestria.

I'm torn on this. On one hoof it was perfectly reasonable she did what she did, since in case something went wrong "her" little ponies would have been left basically all alone. However, if something went wrong with her friends she would have failed in the end. She knew the tree was linked to the Elements, and she walked right out with the, arguably, central Element on her head. The others could have realized this, as well. And I would have liked to see Twi respond to their "the ponies need a Princess, they can't go on without one" with "But I need my friends, and if something happened to you, something I could have prevented had I been there, I would never forgive myself". I honestly can't blame Twi for choosing what she did, knowing how eager she is to please Celestia and fulfill her duties. A small part of me still says it was a bit unnecessary to send her back like that, but… It's a hard decision, and either one could be the wrong one.

So, the others end up going it alone while Twi returns to Ponyville, gets some pep talk from Discord and heads back into the forest. Wait, Discord actually doing something that was for the good of Equestria? Nah, coincidence~ Also Discord really isn't a nice guy. Poor ponies just dangling there… Meanwhile in the forest the rest find the tree but are "lost without Twilight" and don't know what to do. …and start blaming one another. Ladies, please. Spike does a good job telling the others Twi is in trouble in a manner reminiscent of A Dog and Pony Show. Yay rescue by the others~

And then the Elements must be given away. AJ's speech about how the Elements tie them together was nicely foreshadowed earlier on in the episode, but when you think about it it just doesn't make much sense to me. Somepony kind of needed to give that speech, but AJ seems like the wrong choice for it. She's the family mare, and she should be able to value her friends and know that their friendship is what ties them together, not some magic trinkets. But oh well. Twi sets her straight, and they proceed to give up their Elements, Twi gets covered by tent- vines, and die- oh, never mind. Turns out everything went better than expected, Luna and Celestia are freed and get hugs from Twi. And suddenly Mystery Box with six keyholes. That's… interesting. Not like they would do a longer arc for a season, right~

Oh, hey, looks like it was Discord after all, he just didn't tell them anything before. Surprise! Took those seeds quite long to mature, though. Well, magic is as magic does, I suppose. And then Twi did a sonic twiboom, the end. Though it is interesting how she managed to fly so well at the end when she had struggled the whole episode before it. Maybe something about just having the confidence to do it? A bit bothersome, maybe, but fine, I'll let it be for now.

Rambling!Rose//pzOM 26434

>>26433
Some things I'd like to mention here that I already pointed out above.

* Twi was treated like a princess and the ponies in Canterlot immediately looked to her for guidance when things went wrong. I mentioned it already, but I really love this. It makes so, so much sense and tells so much about the relationship between the common pony and the Princesses. For these ponies, Princess Celestia was there when their grandparents were born and they believe she will be there to watch over their own grandfoals. A Princess of Equestria means so much to them, so it only makes sense that the newest princess would be treated the same as well.

*The flashback scenes. Dear Luna, the flashback scenes. These could have had been implemented in so many ways, some better, some worse. They could have had so much more information. But what we got? It really worked. We got pretty much exactly the information we wanted but of course the transformation of Luna raises some more questions. All in all, though, these were one of the highlights of the episode, and will be rewatched by me many, many times.

*Discord. He isn't good. He isn't even friendly. He basically made the Mane 6 waste their time with his little game of "I'm innocent, pls believe me even though I act suspiciously" and mocked Twilight constantly. And in the end he ended up taunting Twi, making her do what she was supposed to. He isn't actively causing harm but isn't helping either. He's just having fun. Yeah, him breaking the 4th wall was a bit questionable, but it *is* Discord. He isn't exactly an ally but he doesn't seem to be an enemy any more, either. I'll have to wait and see what they'll do with him in the future.

*Alicorn magic. Did Twilight channeling that magic make anyone else expect her to start bleeding black ichor from her eyes? Anybody? To me her "alicorn magic" looked a lot like what I had assumed to be "Sombra's dark magic", which she had used in TCE. Is this just a similar effect, or is there something going on in here?

*The characters. For the most part I didn't notice anything too off about the characters on this first viewing. Twilight was Twilight, though her panicking about the list felt a bit exaggerated. Still, Twi is Twi is Twi. Pinkie still kind of felt too gag-focused to me, but that could very well be me just paying more attention to it. Not nearly to the same degree she had been before, though, so it could be just me here. Others? OK to me at least so far.

*The ending. To be fair, the ending felt a bit fast to me. It took them so long to get to the tree that when they finally arrived Twi just set the Elements there and boom, it's done. Not like I could really expect anything else, but still I couldn't shake that feeling, since the whole episode before that I felt had had a slower pace. Too much story, too little time? Can't say for sure.

*Giving up the Elements. This is actually interesting. I think this has been something people have talked about for a while. It could be hard to come up with obstacles for the M6 if they could only spray them with rainbows and call it a day. My solution might have been to restrict the usage of the Elements to only restoring harmony in some way, but eliminating them from the equation completely is something I wouldn't have thought they'd actually do. Well played here, team. Well played. Now the Mane 6 can have other ways of dealing with baddies instead of just rainbowing them all, and it could be interesting. Looking forward to the possibilities here.

*The mystery box. It looks like this season we are going to have some sort of overarching plot going on throughout it all. Hmm, what was one of the big things I wanted from this show… Oh yeah, continuity and making the episodes more connected! Well I'll be damned~ I hope it doesn't overtake all the episodes and that we'll instead have some nice slice-of-life episodes to go along with it. Maybe the more "slicier" episodes could work as key hunting episodes, as well? It's all in the presentation, after all. I'm glad to see this, really am. I just hope we don't get too many episodes that focus on adventure and action too much. Taking things slowly and dealing with the characters is nice every now and again, too. Oh, and the theories about the box are going to be interesting, too.


All in all, I came in expecting the Twilight Sparkle Show, and the Twilight Sparkle Show is what I got. However, I enjoyed this episode more than I had expected. It had some minor issues here and there, but overall it felt good. The characters' actions and decisions (mostly) made sense and felt natural, the story wasn't (too) contrived Zecora… and it was good to have ponies again. It has been way long. This was a good way to "reboot" the series, and I'm actually, surprising myself, looking forward to how this season turns out. Ponies? Ponies never change.

Anonymous 26435

Sooo what exactly happened with the rest of the non-twilight mane 6?
Something felt incredibly off about all of them.
Not only was the voice acting weird, but their lines all felt forced, and their personalities vacant.
Did Megan just forget how to write for every character except twilight?
The episode wasn't bad, don't get me wrong, but didn't it feel like something was missing with the characters?

Anonymous 26436

I live in aussyland so episode came out at like, 1am
Streaming isn't good for me because we have shit internet
Is there a YouTube link or a torrent?

The Person Who Posts As Fluttershy (Element of Self-descriptive Usernames) 26437

Rambling!Rose//pzOM 26438

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>>26435
Hmm… didn't notice that myself, but I'll have to keep an eye out on that when I rewatch later. You could very well be right, and I just didn't pay attention enough because new pony that actually made me feel generally good. Any scenes where they especially felt off for me to pay special attention to, or was it just pretty much all around?

>Did Megan just forget how to write for every character except twilight?

Ha, wouldn't surprise me in the slightest~

The Person Who Posts As Fluttershy (Element of Self-descriptive Usernames) 26439

I don't know what to make of this episode.

Rambling!Rose//pzOM 26440

>>26439
Oh? Do tell?

The Person Who Posts As Fluttershy (Element of Self-descriptive Usernames) 26441

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>>26440

I'm glad they freed the show from the elements. It should give some more room for growth not being tied to them and I was glad they made use of what they introduced in KC&FO. That episode is essential if you're going get rid of the elements because you got to have Discord neutralized to do that, and the ponies don't do permanent destruction.

Anonymous 26442

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Yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes!

>>26441
Also yes to this.

Anonymous 26443

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>>26434
"Alicorn magic. Did Twilight channeling that magic make anyone else expect her to start bleeding black ichor from her eyes? Anybody? To me her "alicorn magic" looked a lot like what I had assumed to be "Sombra's dark magic", which she had used in TCE. Is this just a similar effect, or is there something going on in here?"

Sombra learned how unicorns could use 'alicorn magic'. It's dangerous stuff!

Scootapuff!saU4Tsd4dU 26444

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>>26441
Tell that to Sombrero~

Anonymous 26445

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>>26444
THE HORN SURVIVED

The Person Who Posts As Fluttershy (Element of Self-descriptive Usernames) 26446

>>26444
not dead
not a character

Scootapuff!saU4Tsd4dU 26447

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>>26445
>>26446
Unless he's Cell, he's dead.

26448

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>>26441
Hadn't thought about it like that, but yeah. I suppose KCaFO was a necessary evil in the big scheme of things. And yeah, them getting rid of the Elements let them do way more things. That's it, then? You saying you don't know what to make of it lead me to believe you had mixed opinions on it?

>>26443
Clearly! It is an interesting thing to speculate on, since it seems like it was a deliberate thing.

>>26447
That is not dead which can eternal lie. He might not have been gone for eternity, but a thousand or so years is rather impressive, still~

Scootapuff!saU4Tsd4dU 26449

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>>26448
Aren't you supposed to be asleep…?

26450

>>26449
No chatting on /pony/ proper! Though I suppose you can't see the email field on your phone. Yes, I should. You know that "I've lost control of my life" gif? That might be me~ …besides, shouldn't I ask the same of you?

Scootapuff!saU4Tsd4dU 26451

>>26450
Okay, okay…

I was just napping.

Heavy Mole 26452

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"This must be the time Princess Celestia jumped Springfield Gorge!"

Anonymous 26453

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Sersys!CyQeb5KTDM 26454

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Upside down track anyone?

Agiri 26455

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>>26454

lol, that's just a giant xylophone

LyraTheFlirt!!Ah2q8cdspr 26456

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>>26390
Well I guess I should put my long lengthy review here. It's not perfect, but bare with it.
This post will be VERY SPOILERY


I did not have high hopes for this season at all. Mostly everybody constantly being negative put me in a bad mood about the outcome. That's why I have bin slowly disappearing from the website because I really didn't want any hype, in fear that it would lead to disappointment. I wasn't even sure if I wanted to watch s4. I gave in and watched it anyways. This was the make it or break it season.

The episode starts out like the average mlp episode. Everyone is just doin… stuff. Twilight is practicing flying for the upcoming sun celebration or whatever it's called. She is having issues of course, It's an interesting side-character development. Twilight doesn't really like her friends calling her a princess, which I am glad they addressed that. It really adds a more realistic feel to their friendship rather then "I am princess but we still friends, k?". I am also glad they threw in the whole "It's not everybodies dream to become a princess". I'm liking the dialogue about friendship and how the princess thing has not changed anything. It really felt genuine to me instead of just feeling a forced friendship just because the plot demands it. For me, it feels like the first time I REALLY feel like they are friends.

Please don't ever make that face again Pinkie Pie.

WOW I AM REALLY glad they addressed Celestia's feelings about banishing her sister. Again this is another genuine moment to me. This scene did it perfectly too. They also added that every time she had never looked forward to raising the sun without her sister. Sure it's pretty obvious that nobody wanted to banish her sister but it was never gone into such detail like this episode. this has also let me connect to Celestia much better, as she really felt void of emotion or atleast had no remorse to sending her sister to the moon, but that was because they had really never addressed it prior to this episode.

This episode is starting to lead in the direction that Luna is trying to take over again. I figured this was going to be another predictable episode.

[seen enough hentai joke here]

The BigMac eyuup/nope bit would have bin funny had they not made him say eyuup before every damn time he tried to grab a root. Also spike passing out felt like a very forced joke. These are small complaints, but I hope they improve on the humor this season. On a good note, this episode's background music is really adding a lot of atmosphere to it.

We come to the scene where the citizens are trying to figure out what is going on and are looking to Twilight for answers. The guards pull her in and tell her that they are seeking orders from her since all the other powers are missing or busy. They handled this scene pretty well too, (besides the spike passing out bit, that was stupid) instead of it feeling like a forced scene to re-illiterate on the fact that "your a princess, so now you gotta do princess shit".

Wow why do these clouds have shards of glass in them.
That looks pretty dangerous.

I loved the Rarity scene with tea attacking the cat. Seriously, fuck that cat.

Another forced joke, with spike and the seat belt. But then Twilight blinks into her home and spike crashed into the window which was a bit a better gag and a little more subtle. That bit seemed a bit less forced. Subtly is always a good thing. Then they ruin it and add another forced spike joke.
"I get it, I need to work on my flying."
Yes, let's not kill that gag.

A cute hoofbump with Pinkie Pie, some nice dialogue between AJ and Twilight and great background music. I like how everybody is getting a bit pumped up for using the elements.

The discord scene is pretty good, except for Delancie's terrible singing. This scene had good dialogue and pretty good jokes. Discord doesn't feel ruined at all like other people have bin saying ever since the reforming episode.
This scene pretty much pointing us in the wrong direction of who we think is responsible for all the crap going on (unless your some sort of weird psychic who guessed it was somehow Discord's fault).

We take a trip to the past with an impressive transformation scene. The dialogue between the sisters was very strong and powerful. Nicole Oliver absolutely NAILED IT with this scene. She voiced that "Lower the moon" line so perfectly with the tone of anger and distress. After getting shot down we have a brief emotional moment with twilight. Then Celestia pulls out the elements and sends her sister to the moon. This was a powerful scene. It again re-enforces the feeling of sadness and regret that Celestia went through from banishing her sister.
This was an amazing scene overall and I wish it was longer.

Discord then lightens the mood with a pretty funny joke.

I really like how the attention to detail in this episode too. The sisters look pretty roughed up and it implies there was definitely some conflict before this. I also liked how they managed to put in a reasonable explanation for why discord was turned to stone in that pose. That was pretty clever.

"I am going to need more popcorn" *lol dats a joke stinger*
God I hate musical stingers like that.


After fending off a crocodile, Applejack somewhat reluctantly tells Twilight that she thinks it would be better off if she went somewhere safe. This is an excellent representation of Applejack's element, honesty. A very subtle but not forced example of Applejack being honest with somebody, rather then the first two episodes where AJ just tells Twilight "trust me". AJ is getting alot of much needed attention in this episode and I am loving every bit of it. Then some emotional feels.

Twilight heads back into the forest only to get assaulted by some carnivorous plants that use a type of sleeping powder to immobilize it's prey so it can't escapes it's grasp. (Why is everything in this forest like some sort of Japanese rape fantasy?)

A neat little action scene goes by, and the end bit where Pinkie goes "Tada!" and then Twilight zaps one in the background was cute and epic too.

*Friendship speech*

Actually this scene was good too. The background music was pretty powerful too.
Now we got a mystery lockbox which will likely be explored at the end of S4.

Over all this episode REALLY surpassed my expectations. The camera work, lore exploration, music and plot was just fantastic. This is for sure one of my new favorite episodes in the series. It really raises the bar and I really hope the next episodes live up to the expectations this episode has brought me.
I am very impressed with this episode.
I want to hear everybody's opinions on it.


tl;dr Great episode, was not disappointed.

The Person Who Posts As Fluttershy (Element of Self-descriptive Usernames) 26457

btw
>6 keys
seasons 5, 6, 7, 8, & 9 confirmed

LyraTheFlirt!!Ah2q8cdspr 26458

>>26457
We will probably have to pay $2.49 to unbox each season

Agiri 26459

>>26458

Or they'll make it up to two keys and the show will get cancelled.

Silver Strength!TwiDasH7n2 26460

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>>26456
>Why is everything in this forest like some sort of Japanese rape fantasy?
Meghan also put the mane six in skirts in her previous episode. She's a kinky one.

Hulkbow!SMASH/3FWA 26461

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Me: Oh yeah, S04 starts tomorrow. Suppose I should see how it turns out.
ISP: Today is a good day to die.
Me: Again? You did that just last week.
ISP: Yes, I rather enjoyed the break. I'm thinking of making this a regular occurrence. Hope you weren't interested in any auctions ending this weekend either.
Me: …I hate you.

Eventually got to see it though, and on the whole I have to say it left me in a decent mood. On the negative side, Twilight adds a Dashie-esque signature move to her ever-growing list of marysueisms, Nightmare Moon's voice seemed off, and at least on first viewing I couldn't see any sign of Derpy. BUT! Good history segments which fit tidily with prior canon, Discord's reform remains questionable, adventures abound, new lore is revealed, Twilight gets attacked by an Elton John reference, and hints are made at potentially interesting directions the show could take. There's certainly more that will take another viewing to notice or remember, but those are the stand-outs that come immediately to mind.

I still find Princess Twilicorn to be Tourette's-inducing (amusingly, this also means the part in EqG that really made me twitch was the pony segment). It's a shame, she used to be one of my favorites in the mane6 and played a part in getting me into the show in the first place, but now she, along with Cadence and Surfing Armor, just represents to me Hasbro sticking its corporate dick in where it doesn't belong. This ep felt better than most of S03 though, so hopefully the rest of S04 continues in this vein. There's hope now of enough good stuff coming up to distract me from the purple princess abomination.

Now if only all the episodes were 40 minutes long.

That Sporadic Anon 26462

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So, I'm sure this has already been discussed and answered, but when that potion was being turned white why was the glow around Twilight's horn like when King Sombra was messing with her mind and showing her false visions?

That Sporadic Anon 26463

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Also, if I may be so conceded as to post immediately again, what's the deal with Derpy's mane/tail color? She dye her hair or something?

That Sporadic Anon 26464

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That Sporadic Anon 26465

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The Person Who Posts As Fluttershy (Element of Self-descriptive Usernames) 26466

>>26462
the potion recipe was made by Celestia to gave false visions to make Luna seem like the bad guy

>>26463
she stopped bleaching it. Got tired of the "how many blondes does it take to fix town hall" jokes

That Sporadic Anon 26467

>>26466
>the potion recipe was made by Celestia to gave false visions to make Luna seem like the bad guy
That's my headcanon explanation too, I'm just wondering if there's actually an explanation I missed…. Viva NLR!

>bleaching

>blonde jokes
Oh, poor Derpy. All this time the blonde jokes were reinforcing her bleaching it in her mind…. Well I'm glad she's finally stopped. Rock that orange hair girl!

Hulkbow!SMASH/3FWA 26468

>>26462
Maybe that's what happens when her magic mixes with another's.

>>26463
Conceited*

Good to see her again though.


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